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Stefliz · Dec 11, 2017 11:16 AM

I put this mare in the pasture and bred "all pastures". It says that bothe her and the stud have a offspring and are "bred this year" but I cant find the foal and when I look at "Family" of the mare or stud I cant see any offsprings.. Why??
Help me ;'(

Mare:

Winterbell SZ

Haltanny · Dec 11, 2017 11:35 AM

Looks like you probably had a lethal gene combination and the foal died. What stallion did you breed her to?

Stefliz · Dec 11, 2017 11:46 AM

Kasaam SZ

ParadisePark · Dec 11, 2017 11:50 AM

White 1 with White to is a high risk pair :)}

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/13757/new-kit-lethality-and-kit-mutation-load-explained#Item_12
This link explains which pairs are lethal :D

Stefliz · Dec 11, 2017 12:15 PM

Ok thanks :)
that will take some time to understand ut now i know that i cant breed 2 KIT horses :)

Coeur · Dec 11, 2017 12:18 PM

You can breed two kit horses. You just have to be careful which kit genes you mix and match. Certain Kit genes can be high risk or just plain lethal when paired. Paradise Park posted a very helpful link. I've been playing for several years and still have to reference the risk chart every once in a while.

Stefliz · Dec 11, 2017 12:31 PM

Ok, hehe. Its very complicated :D
This mare for ex:

Frosty SZ

She has no KIT and no WF (or minimal) and I looked at the appaloosa gene and for what I understand non of that is leathal? I cant seem to understand where I see for ex: W2 gene in a horse?

ParadisePark · Dec 11, 2017 12:36 PM

Appy has now effect on the Kit genes nor does Splash but certain mixes of Splash are lethal. (Can't remember which)
To find the w2, etc.
Down the bottom with all the other letters/gene results it will say. Kitw20, Kitw, Kitr, etc :)

Coeur · Dec 11, 2017 12:43 PM

There is a really nice chart around here somewhere, I believe @Confluence made it a while ago. I'll see if I can find it for you

KaschStables · Dec 11, 2017 12:44 PM

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/13757/new-kit-lethality-and-kit-mutation-load-explained#Item_12

Here is the chart!

Stefliz · Dec 11, 2017 12:55 PM

So Frosty has no "danger" genes but Winterbell has with her KitKitw2? Am I starting to get it? haha :))

Stefliz · Dec 11, 2017 1:01 PM

Hmmm... I look att the pictures of the different Kit colors ut I cant seem to understand what Kitr and KITto is? :-/

ConfluenceFarms · Dec 11, 2017 1:02 PM

I can't take credit for that terrific chart, I am very much an amateur when it come to the genes! Stefliz, do you understand that part ParadisePark mentioned, the list of genes? I do OK until they throw in appaloosa, then I give up! Then, of course, there are the INVISIBLE genes, it's like having to take maths class all over again!

ConfluenceFarms · Dec 11, 2017 1:04 PM

Kit r is easy! That is where Roan lives!
Kit To is where Tobiano lives!

I THINK that since Frosty has WF: Minimal, she may have a little bit of danger genes.

Stefliz · Dec 11, 2017 1:12 PM

@Confluence Farms yes i did and found all the genes. Klicked on all of them and have been reading but if my horse just have Kit r and Kit to how do i know if it has a dengarus gene? Like W10 or W2? On the pics it doesnt say Kit t :-/

Stefliz · Dec 11, 2017 1:14 PM

Kooza Blue SZ

Bandit1119 · Dec 11, 2017 1:54 PM

Town and tobiano aren’t dangerous and play well with others. White and sabino are found on the same spot. You can only have 2 kit genes so if your horse has roan and tobiano then you don’t have to worry about w2 or w10

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