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jezmynespice1 · Mar 13, 2017 9:26 PM

does this gelding have dp?!

jahdaz · Mar 13, 2017 9:37 PM

Both parents are chocolate palomino meaning that they both have at least one copy of DP. They both have a 50/50 chance to pass it on.

If both parents just had one copy:
DP/n and DP/n
your horse could have:
25% chance no DP at all
25% chance HZ DP
50% chance one copy of DP
(so all together, 75% chance of carrying at least one copy of DP)

Edit to add:
I'm having trouble finding what happens to DP if the horse is a double dilute/cremello/perlino..?

ObsidianKitsune · Mar 14, 2017 12:52 AM

Found this one and another that had CcrCprl and had "Chocolate" in their name. I don't know what happens with double Ccr though...

HF1 Freak Out DP

Waldgraf · Mar 14, 2017 7:47 PM

A CcrCcr produces a double dilution, cremello. It looks very similar to white though, depending on the base color, there may be some darker sheen!

SandycreekFarm · Mar 15, 2017 5:26 AM

Cream is the strongest of the dilution genes, so a homozygous cream horse will probably not show even homozygous DP to any great extent.

MoonAcre Stables · Mar 15, 2017 9:58 AM

@waldgraf a double dilute is not always a cremello. Depending on the base color the horse can be either cremello, perlino, or smokey cream.

And yes, DP doesnt show on double dilutes. Its there but you cant see it.

OndowaStables · Mar 15, 2017 11:26 AM

Even homozygous DP doesn't darken a cremello much and doesn't change the color name. The homozygous creme dilutes too much for anything to effect it.

SstySsty with no DP:

Oct28 GoodChina 1

SstySsty with 1 DP:

Vanilla Fudge

SstySsty with 2 DP:

Glowing Penumbra

Wytchmore · Mar 15, 2017 12:38 PM

How do you know Glowing Penumbra has homozygous DP when it can't be tested for and he's a foundation so no chocolate parents to give you a clue?

Edit: It was a HH or you gmo'd him?

OndowaStables · Mar 15, 2017 1:26 PM

I GMed Glowing Penumbra with homozygous DP. Vanilla Fudge is a Dark Chocolate RS HH (so het DP), who got an extra cream. I wanted more chocolate palominos, so like my DP cremellos to cross with my pasture full of dark chestnut mares.

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