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Hey guys, so I may have messed up my whole game. I just started this game like a few days ago. I created some horses, bred some, played around with testing and stuff like that. Read the genetics guide because I am 100% confused of everything. I sold my first horses and invested in a herd helper that would produce some horses that I want to start breeding, Appaloosas. I have a few mares and a few studs. I only have 106 hb now, I have no idea how to get more money. I'm sure no one would be interested in anything I have.
Any tips on how to get back on my feet and start breeding for more desirable horses?
How do I get horses with great test scores and that are great at shows?
I still need help figuring out the genetic aspect of the game. What I should cross to get something cool, what I shouldn't cross, and how to breed for horses with high points.
Thank You to any one who reads and responds with help! :)>- -
Hello!
I did exactly the same thing when I started out. You didn't ruin anything. You were learning and enjoying yourself. Now you can get down to business and grow a sustainable herd.
Make sure to adopt some show horses: http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/18046/available-to-adopt#Item_2
A show herd funds your breeding projects. Hj2 is a non competitive game so selling isn't the greatest way to gain money. Any horse can be a show horse, some are better than others but it takes time figuring out which is. Look for Perfect Foundation or Great Show Horse herd helpers, they do great at showing. Also pick up higher generation horses at auction with high (above 10) PT scores.
I'm on mobile so I can't find my other helpful links. Hopefully Confluence comes over. I hope this is a start to answering some of your questions. :) -
Building a show herd from scratch is tough. I've been working on it since June and I'm just getting up to where it kind of helps. I have some foals that I could put up for you for 1hb each, if you'd like. It'll take a while for them to start earning, but every little bit helps :)
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@Ritsika, could you help me find s good horse to adopt from them?
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Not to worry! I did the same thing when I first started and I'm sure everyone else has as well :) This is a great 'gaming' community and I've found loads of helpful people on here!
If you have room in your barn(s) I can send you a couple of show horses to help you get started. You'll get weekly 'pay' of some form thanks to how the game works which will be paid in each Sunday and a daily allowance based on your horses show points. Make sure you enter your horses in shows as much as you can to increase their chances of earning points and train them as well to increase these chances further.
Have you got your starter kit from Ammit? If you go onto the main Forum there's a page where new members can get a helping hand in their first two weeks which is very useful!Thanked by 1StarfireAcres -
@lJDobbins, That would be amazing, whatever you would like to sell me is great. Beggers can't be choosers lol!
@DevilsParadise, Oh goodness now I'm worried! I just want to be successful on this game. -
@BlackWaterEquine I've added you to my chat room LJDobbins Sales Room and I'll put up a few horses there for you now :)
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I picked up your horses for sale : )
I found the best way to learn what I wanted to breed for was figuring out what I DIDN'T want, and going from there. Your herd should be primarily for YOUR enjoyment. Very few people on this game make a big profit from selling anything beyond rank specials. Our funds come mostly from show horses. As Ritsika mentioned, you didn't ruin anything--you're just learning!
I also spent lots of time reading the forums to see what other players were creating and selling, and get ideas about breeding projects. It was easier for me when I started to buy nice, high-PT spare foals from other players (especially colts and altered foals) than to try to breed at that level.
My herd finally reached a size recently where my auction foals allow me to buy a big new barn or two with Investment Vouchers (game money) each month. I try to fill these new barns with show horses to further boost my bank account.
P.S. Do not look to my barns for models of organization--they're a hot mess right now! I have a ridiculous amount of stallions, and far too many breeding vs show animals to be as profitable as I could be. Right now, I'm about quantity vs quality as I figure out my preferred breeding crosses. I currently produce about 400+ foals a month, mostly for auction, and less than ten make me say "yes! This is exactly what I want to produce for my breeding herd!"
For me, breeding is all about experimenting right now. Ocassionally, in spite of my best efforts, I produce a really snazzy foal! That's part of the fun of this game--there's no single "right" or "wrong" way to play. Trial and error, just as you are doing now, will help you determine what works best for your stable.
Best of luck with your herd : )Looking for Appaloosas? Check out my Riata account. -
I would also add that this game isn't one that you can make oodles of money at, and have a huge barn, and be super successful overnight. This game is based on long term strategy. It can take several real life years for you to get to the level of some of the biggest and most successful (money wise) barns in the game.SALVISTAR PERFORMANCE HORSES
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As several people have mentioned, this is a game requiring patience and an eye to the fairly distant future. There are some players, especially playing HaJ1, the original server, who have been playing this game almost as long as it has been in existence--11 years, now. So set a goal and then start working toward it. It will take you awhile, but this game is worth spending years of real life playing time.
There is NO one set definition of being successful that fits every player. We all set our own goals and work towards them. I'm actually pretty casual about things. I try to get each generation of horses to be better than their parents, but I don't stress myself out about it. I have over 2000 horses in this game and don't worry if not all the intact ones get bred each season. Most of my horses are foundations or lower generations, and I don't really worry about that, either. Since I'm able to afford a Premium Upgrade, I let the game worry about showing and just collect my daily showing bonus with thanks. My stable provides me just short of 70,000 hajibucks every night at the moment.
My own goal for the game is to have my hoard of pixel ponies give me a bank balance that is high enough that I can afford to help out new players, or even those who've been around for a while who have sudden need for game cash.
I can help you with that if you have a horse you don't much care for and wouldn't mind selling. Put it up for sale for 50,000 hbs, and then post its link in this thread. I will buy it for that price to help you out.
De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
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After Sunday if you go to your main stable page it will give you a button to click for 5,000 hbs every week.
If you have room in your stalls still, once you have money I would suggest filling all your extra stalls with random create mares, breed them all in paster for 500 hbs each and then sell both mares and foal at auction for a profit of 1000 hbs per horse auctioned. Doing that three times a week (at every auction) adds up. Once you can afford a new barn then you can get even more mares to breed and auction and get more income per auction. After a while it becomes more time effective to fill the auction room barns with show ponies and slowly get a show bonus up, which takes little time to maintain even though it doesn't bring in as much cash. It starts out slowly, but by the time I switched out to show ponies due to time I was sending over 200 horses through each auction and living quite comfortably.
Higher paper horses tend to create higher pt foals who should make better show earners eventually. I can send some extra fillies from my quick high paper breeding program next month and then if you can find a star papered appy boy you would then be able to produce a lot of really high pt snipped show foals, and hopefully a few would stay intact for making even more better quality show foals. The snipped horses make better showers sometimes, but high PT breeding stock show good too. -
I will also happily buy a horse or foal from you that you don't need for 50k. Post a link to the foal here and I will grab it.
I'm also happy to sell you a couple of show ponies if you have barn room (you may want to hold off on that until you get your extra barn from the Welcome Pack). I completely restarted the game a few months ago after selling off all of my pixel ponies, so most of my show stock isn't super old or high pointed yet but I have some nice stuff that will still get you a jump on nice show ponies that won't age out of the game this month but also isn't foals or two year olds.
As for figuring out what you want to breed, I really think you should just mess around until you have a real plan. Look at the Breeders Clubs (under the Community Tab) for examples of different patterns and colors. All horses in Breeders clubs must be color tested to be entered, so you can specifically look at how different genes for colors and patterns interact. If you cross reference that information with the Genetics Guide, that should help you start to figure those things out.
There are some lethal crosses in the game. Some are complicated, others are rare. Confluence has a link to most of the information in this post here.
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/15736/links-list#Item_7
That post also has tons of other informative and helpful links.
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^ What they said!
If it gets frustrating sell or auction everything and start over again! I've only been around for 10 years, so I'm still a relative newbie! :P =))
Look for me using the AvailableToAdopt account and I will fix you up with even MORE show horses! -
I would love to send you some hb to help you out but your account is not old enough does anyone know how I can send BlackWaterEquine money?
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You said you're confused about the genetics part of the game. It can be confusing, but once you grasp a few basic points, it becomes a bit more understandable. This game is actually an excellent way to become acquainted with basic genetic concepts as well as what is known by scientists about the details of horse color genetics.
1. Every living thing has a set of genes that control everything about it. A mulitcellular living organism has two copies of every gene, one which each has inherited from its male parent and the other which was inherited from its female parent.
2. Genes are housed on pairs of chromosomes which each hold many individual genes. Once again, one member of the pairs came from the father and the other from the mother. Humans, for instance have 46 chromosomes in 23 pairs.
3. Every pair of chromosomes separates when the cells that pass on genes from parents to offspring are created.
4. Most genes have two varieties. One is usually dominant over the other. This means that the dominant form of the gene will be active when the creature has both a dominant and a recessive copy of that gene.
In horses, for instance, there is a gene that determines if the horse will have black hairs or reddish brown hairs. This gene is called Extension, and it is abbreviated E for the dominant or black producing form and e for the recessive or red producing form. A horse can be EE and will have black hair, Ee, which also produces black hair, or ee, which produces reddish brown hair.
The extension gene is closely linked with the Agouti gene, abbreviated A for the dominant form and a for the recessive form. Dominant agouti pushes the black pigment in hairs to the mane and tail, and lower legs, creating bay horses. A bay horse can be Ee AA, EE Aa, EE AA, Ee Aa. A horse that is ee AA will still be chestnut because it lacks the gene form that creates black hair. A horse that is EE or Ee aa will always be a black horse because it lacks the dominant Agouti to push the black hairs to the mane, tail and lower legs.
5. There are a number of other genes that affect the color of horses, usually by diluting either the red or the black pigment.
6. There are also a number of genes that affect the pattern of white and colored hair on a horse.
This is just the beginning. When you think you are understanding it, you can find more information in some of the links in this post.
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/15736/links-list#Item_7
If you would like more help, you can send me a private message (click on my stable name and look for the link to Send SandyCreekFarm a message. I can discuss any particular genes you are curious about, or any other aspect of the game.De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592 -
@StarfireAcres--just offer to purchase a horse for an outrageously high price. :DDe gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
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Awesome thank you Sandy! :D
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Oh do I just have her send me a link of the horse she is selling or add her to my buddy chat?
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@ Starfire Since she probably has an nonupgraded account, she will have to post a link here. A player has to have at least a Basic upgrade to post horses for sale in a chat room.De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
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Ok awesome hope she sees these messages or maybe I should send her a pm and ask her to post a horse here thank you Sandy :D
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I wouldnt call myself a great player or breeder, but im beginning to finally roll and breed some good stuff. I did exactly the same thing you did when i started. No worries, dont sweat it.
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We all did what you did - like everyone is saying you need to play around a while - my first account Dinascar is still playing around nearly a year later (she is one confused soul!). Take your time - don't beat up about it. Always make the rank special that Ammit gives you, even if you don't like it you can sell it for more than it cost you, get some show ponies from Adopt and ask for lots of help. Always breed in pasture - it's cheaper. Chances are we will offer you advice and horses. There is no right way of playing this game. There is no end point and no winning. So have fun :)Thanked by 1StarfireAcres
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I would like to thank everyone on here for the amazing advice @ChilliFireFarm @StarfireAcres @SandycreekFarm @Dunbroc @Cheers @WildlandAcres @Salvistar @Alohomora @LJDobbins
I may be missing a few people, but thank you so much for everything. All the help is great!