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http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=325191

Thats one of my Heterozygous nexus fillies, and is out of jailees stud

Is GP totally random and it doesn't matter what I start with, I'll have the same chance of getting GP no matter what?

Well, I know how GP looks, just not how to breed for it. Those are all produced out of a GMT. :/

I don't know what happened when Ammit introduced the gene, but she modeled it after real life, where one stallion called Gulastra sired many horses with the lightened tail. Therefore (as far as I know, she may have had sales between now and then), all of the horses on the game have descended from the one stallion. :D

I've read that a few times... I guess I'll just have to try.

You can get Gulastra Plume right now in the GMT lab for 10 GMT tokens per allele. You will need two alleles for it to show, and it only shows up on bay and buckskin horses. It does not show up on the gene test, so the only way you can tell if a horse has heterozygous GP is to know for sure that one of its parents was homozygous.

It came into the game (at that time there was only HaJ1) for the 2 millionth horse, which was a mare, Miss Remains 2B Seen, I think was her name. Ammit did not tell us what the new gene would be. There was a contest to guess what it was before the 1st mare was created. At first the only way to tell was what shows when a buckskin has heterozygous GP--a grayish tail instead of a black one and a light spot or two in the mane. GP does not show up on horses with champagne.

GP will never show up spontaneously.

GP costs 10 GMTs per copy, and must be homozygous on a bay based horse to show.

Ammit has said on Facebook that Nexus may never be available again, so you'd have to get your hands on a straw or a horse that carries it.

GP, like everyone says, can be GMT'd onto a foundation horse. That's the only way to start a line (other than getting horses or straws in higher generations), it never shows up randomly.

I do have a horse that's from Comet's line but she doesn't have GP, she's a Perlino though. Is it possible that if I bred her back to darker colors, that I would have a chance to get a GP

Haha, I didn't even realize her Dam is GP. I think I have a good chance of having a GP line. :D =P~

I didn't mean to get anyone in trouble. I promise I won't disappoint you, Abbey.

Will do, I find it amusing that I had bought her awhile ago, just because I liked her and found out only now that she has GP in her pedigree. I just got a premium upgrade to ensure I have room to keep everything in house. ;)

Well, since satin has to be homozygous rec., it's just satin, but it doesn't have pearl. What this horse has is brown and champagne and a little bit of sooty. :) Look up some sable champagnes without satin and compare them to this horse. :D
All of these genes are available to free-playing members, they just might be hard to combine. I'm sure you could do it with patience, though.

It is the same brown, yes. If you don't mind the appaloosa blanket or varnish getting in the way, you could totally start a sable appy champagne line. What you want to get the champagne into the line is probably a classic champagne, as in a normal black champagne. A champagne with any other kinds of bay will be dominant over the brown and lighten it considerably, in case you don't know. If you can find a satin classic champagne, so much the better. :D
You would not need sooty+, no, the one you saw didn't have it, but if you want to add that texture to it, sure.

If two GMTs are less expensive to you than a new AtAt horse, then sure. :P
If you can find a champagne mare, Cheers' Weekend Wishes is still available for cover. He's got AtAt, sooty+ and regular sooty, and heterozygous satin. Just make sure you comply with Cheers' regulations and you'll be golden. :D
Compare the yearling stallion with the silver champagne and you'll see that the silver dilutes it more than that particular horse you used as an example. You could try it out anyway. :P

I'm pretty good at figuring out what I'll get... Punnett Squares and all that. I can't see the genes on a lot of horses though so, it makes it a billions times harder to figure out what I need.

Well, yes, you could breed for a similar shade with different genes. :P

Totally, it's pretty hard when at least the parents aren't tested. :P It's especially hard if you're looking for a higher generation horse to breed to. :P
I've only been playing a few months and I'm doing okay. You'll get better. :D

No! Not at all, just that it would be so much easier and faster to combine to the two genes in one generation than wait until the next one to add it in. :)

Yes! That is what I want.

Breeding two of my horses to two of your horses that are sasa, would give me two unrelated horses that are Sasa/saSa which when bred together would have some chance of having sasa. I have some foals currently that are Sasa/saSa. I don't have any stallions of breeding age that are Sasa/saSa. So, waiting is no problem. I really super appreciate your help!

I got this really beautiful colt out of Weekend Wishes! He wouldn't be good for Satin anyway but man, he's gorgeous!

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=334110

He IS gorgeous, Scarlet.

I have a champagne satin foundation stallion you could breed to... I've put him up for the remainder of the season for you. If you breed him to brown you should get sable, with a 50% chance of satin.

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=159062

There's a foundation stallion called Cricket Pitch currently up for stud who also carries satin. Your satin carriers are higher generation though, so it just depends on whether you want to start your own satin line from foundations or breed higher gens (there should be several upper generation satin carriers for stud). Watch breeding rules - a lot of players prefer that you breed evenly and some of your girls are unevenly bred.

I'm pretty sure I squee'd when I bred my first homozygous satin :)

You guys are so nice.

My ones bred to Weekend Wishes are definitely unevenly bred because all my foundations are era3 and he's 0. But they've all been tested and dealt with accordingly.

I definitely try to make sure I read all the rules correctly. My first foals were all kinds of messed up cause I didn't understand.

Abbey, I won't have any brown mares to breed till January. Thank you so much though!

Era doesn't matter. It just means your horses are from older in the game. Just make sure you keep the generations even for my horses...there are whole threads about the pros and cons of breeding evenly vs unevenly on the forum but I am trying to keep my lines even, so foundation to foundation, 2nd gen to 2nd gen, etc.

Era doesn't make much difference to a great many players, I think. It certainly doesn't make any difference in the quality of the horse. It is chiefly a way to keep the playing field between new lines and old ones a bit more level. Ammit introduced it as a help to new players of HaJ1 who were interested in competing for the limited number of leader boards we had at that time. Because the oldest lines, which were likely to have the highest PT foals because there were so many generations in which PT scores had been building up, monopolized the leader boards, newer players who were starting their own lines with foundation horses had very little chance of catching up. Eras make it possible for people starting new lines in a new era to compete against each other for leader board spots, and so people for whom this is important are happier.

Another important thing to remember, ScarletCarson, is that you can only GMT a gene onto a lined horse if one of its parents is carrying the gene and the foal didn't get it. So if you have a second generation foal by a satin carrying sire out of a non-satin carrying dam and it gets satin from the sire, you cannot change the Sa from the dam to sa because she has no sa in her genes to pass on. However, if it missed the sire's sa, you could GMT the foal's Sa from the sire to sa, because it was present in the sire's genes.

so in the case of Wish, because he was created for me by the Game Goddess herself, he's from an older era. Foals inherit the lowest Era # from their parents, so all the Wish foals will be Era 0, thus competing on leader boards against established lines from the oldest active players in the game. I don't think that matters on the color based breeders clubs though...only the era based ones.

The complexities of this game are mind boggling. Ammit and the crew have done an amazing job of creating a realistic puzzle for breeding high quality horses of specific colors. In general I'm finding the answer in this game is much the same as the answer in real life--the way to get a good number of high quality foals every year is to put a ton of foals on the ground and then cull. This is why the saying goes "how do you become a millionaire racing horses? You start as a billionaire." So in other words, while you are working on building a satin line, remember to also build that string of show ponies to make you lots of moolah!

Considering all of my satin carriers are yearlings, it's fairly plausible that I'll only be working on show horses. Even my GP carrier is only 2years old. I did find that my satin carriers are also pearl carriers which I wasn't even paying attention to. I'm excited for them to get older.

I was thinking that it would be cool to have a way to be a better trainer but then I realized that by breeding better horses, they will have more trainability. This game is pretty entertaining to figure out for sure.

I will probably work on getting high producing browns and champagnes since that's what I have the most stock in besides blacks and bays.