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According to her gene test, she is Ice 1.

Does is matter what Ice I breed her to?

@olio900 what's the stud fee on Snowy Dancer

750? I am not really sure what he is worth

Also Oak she is uneven so she will most likely produce show babies, she did for me at least.

I just feel like not breeding her is kinda a waste even if she has show babies I want to use her to her full potential

Yes I would please :) thank you so much Olio

:x

@OakCreek13, your mare has Ice 1. The only Ice genes that can be shared with people who did not purchase that specific gene using real money for a foundation are Ice 1, Ice 2, Ice 5, and Ice 8. Out of those 4 genes, Ice 1 and Ice 8 are usually the only 2 that are shared with non foundation owners. Ice 2 was significantly more expensive than the other 3 non restricted Ice genes, so those foundation owners don't share their intact horses with non Ice 2 owners since they want to keep the lines quality and not have lots of poor quality intact horses around like what happened with Ice 1 and Ice 8. And it seems like Ice 5 never became all that popular, I don't think I've ever seen people post Ice 5 foals in foal brags, BOP posts, etc.

Your mare is a really good example of why people who buy expensive genes generally do not share them with users who didn't purchase the gene. She may look like she's a mostly even 3G mare at first glance but if you take a look at her dam's pedigree you will see some horrible quality horses and really uneven lines there. If you judge her generation by looking at the highest gen horses in her pedigree instead of the lowest gen horses, your mare is actually a 9G horse and not a 3G horse. There are some Failed papered horses in her pedigree, lots of unpapered horses, a C papered 3G Ice stallion from 2 generations of B papered stallions, and so on.

It's very hard to judge your mare's breeding quality since her pedigree is so uneven. You could calculate her AFPT but she only has 2 living foals so you really don't have enough data points for that average to be very meaningful. Her sire is only C papered so my guess is that she's not a very high level Red papered mare. If you breed her to Star or A papered stallions, you will probably get only altered foals. If you really want intact foals out of this mare, a B papered stallion is probably the way to go.

It would show up as an alert on your home page

Holy cow this baby has color!! She passes BA but not SBA she's got a nice PT score and will be a very pretty show baby I'm in love with her :x
Thank you Olio and thank you Windward for the info on what I can do I really appreciate it :)


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It looks like a B papered stallion is a good match for her if you want to get intact foals, so that's probably a good paper level to stick with for the future (unless you decide you just want high PT show foals). Once she's had a few more foals and you can get a more accurate AFPT calculated for her, then you can choose a stallion with a similar AFPT and that should also help increase your chances at an intact foal as well.

@deardiamond no, a while ago we had an "out of the vault" type of ice sale. All of the ices were for sale. I think this was before ice13 was released but I cant remember lol. Since ice 1, 2, 5, and 8 were previously released without restrictions Ammit asked that we only share the newly created ones with others who own foundations with those genes. Its not enforced like the closed genes but it was asked.

"I think you keep trying to make it way more complicated than it is. Axiom, Ice 9 and up and Macchiato are the only closed genes. "

She posted this last month. Now I don't know what to believe!

@WindwardFarm thats pretty much the same exact thing that I said lol.

@ElementalStables but if you read that link it says those genes are closed. So Im thinking she forgot about those couple ice genes. She wouldnt just change her mind on it.