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The flaxen gene affects red based horses, but when the coat is dark enough to look black, it doesn't go straight , just to a paler red.
The silver gene affects all the black on the body, so you won't find a very dark horse with silver. I'm attempting to do it with brown and some sootys. I'll let you know how it turns out. :P
Splash could work, but I don't think it'll affect the mane, and the white factor amount could be tricky on any of the paints.
There's one other gene called Gulastra Plume or GP that expresses much like the splash gene sometimes does, as a lightened tail-end, but it's really exclusive, and you can't test for it.
It's possible you could get a mainly white horse with a dark mane and maybe tail if you got a White 1 Black horse with juuust the right amount of white factor, but that's completely luck based.
I don't think you could breed an entire line of most of these options, but you might get a few.
Basically, you'll have to settle for something besides stark-black if you want light mane and tail, and a light horse with dark mane and tail isn't really a trait you can breed for.

I'm looking for something more like this, very defined.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fa/bd/c9/fabdc9cf8867d43d9a82cdc1e85a70c5.jpg

Is it possible to get that kind of definition with a black body and white mane and tail?

In-game, that kind of expression might not be possible. If you look up silver black in the horse search, you can see what kind of coloring you can get with just silver and black. I'm going to go research and I'll see what I can find.

The horse you posted doesn't meet you definition either. That's a minimal tobiano. Part of it's mane and tail are also black. Basically what you want isn't a real color. This is what that stallion looks like.

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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8a/14/22/8a14223e6a7ff3220f39303faaf190d8.jpg

His name is Leonardo Norsk. You can look for black tobiano horses in the game for a similar look.

Well, if you breed for it by a white gene, then it's a luck thing, yes. Silver solids can be worked with. :D

Yeah I was going to suggest breeding for minimal black tobiano. Black splash does some neat white tail effects too.

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=123494
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=277198

Well, I don't know much about the liver hosses, but I'll give you what I do have.
With the liver chestnuts, there's a necessary gene that doesn't show up in tests, except that the name will change to liver chestnut (more experienced DP breeders: is that only if it's Hz?). It looks very similar to sooty when you just look, so it's very hard to breed for.
In the forums, we call that gene DP for short, and Dense Pheomelanin for long. All this, of course, jacks up the price on known liver chestnuts.
Recently Ammit made a new Herd Helper that only shows up on every Friday the 13th that gives a black-looking liver chestnut with Hz lethal frame. You can only tell it's a chestnut once you test it.
I searched for horses with the color 'liver', and I found that they all had Hz sooty. So that's confusing. However, I did find this horse, who might be what you're looking for.

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=169198

If anyone can add to that or correct me, please do.

Roseflute that liver chestnut is gorgeous! Good find.

Your info is correct, except that the Freaky Fridays aren't necessarily chestnut, many of them were hiding their double DP under actual black. They also aren't flaxen, as the above mare is, so they wouldn't have the silvery mane and tail. I added flaxen to my Freaky Friday stud, and I also made him tobiano (minimally expressed), so his tail is pure white and his mane is silvery.


http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=307177

But yeah, so-called "black" chestnuts are true ee chestnuts with two copies of the non-testable DP/liver gene. One copy gives you a dark, chocolaty chestnut.

You could definitely breed for flaxen black chestnuts... it's a challenge :)

FJ this is my foundation flaxen Homozygous DP homozygous sooty liver chestnut.



He's put up some pretty babies, so if you're interested in a 2g stallion from his line (heterozygous for DP and sooty) I will sell you one for a good price.

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=304981

Cheers I would certainly hit you up for a foal of his especially if it dapples out like that. WOW, that looks awesome!

I visited their page.......I think. How do you get horses from them?

Do a horse search and check For Sale and put 13 in the Owner ID slot. That will take you to their sales list.

So you can breed DP without the freaky friday?

Foundation rescue gets lots of them. Just have to look.