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I think it's some people get gold at 6, but that's rare and culled any other not gold at that gen level is only used if you really want a small amount of horses and have very good lines. I believe gold tends to appear around about 7th/8th gens.

I require gold by 6th gen but have a several 5th gen and even 3 4th gen gold mares. For 3rd gen, I now require blue papers even from B/red 2nd gen, ordinary create foundation lines, but I only made that decision after I had enough blue mares to mostly fill my 3rd gen pastures. I used to keep red 3rd gens who had AFPT above 10.8.

Ok ignore me, I was a couple of Gens off :p

AHayes--

I think it's important to balance having enough horses to breed with holding them to high standards. If culling for a paper level would mean you have 3 mares instead of 30, I would hold off until you have more mares at the paper you desire. Remember, if your gen 5s aren't Papering where you want them it, it's because your gen 3 and 4s aren't producing at the level you want them to...so get your early gens in order first.

I was just fully transitioning to only Blues at gen 3 when I dispersed my herd. Remember that while it's wonderful to have really high goals for your herd, most of us are still breeding with at least some regular create quality foundations. You need to decide if you're going to hold your entire herd to boosted standards or if you're going to allow wiggle room.

I would hold your gen 2 As to producing Blue fillies from the pasture. I always cut slack for straw or handbred foals provided they pass SBA.

It is generally accepted that with harsh and consistent culling it is possible to get *Stars/*Golds by gen 5, but again I would not cull your Blues until you are producing enough Golds to have a decent herd of Gen 5s. Culling your gen 2, 3, and 4 mares strictly for an AFPT cutoff will help you improve those herds and increase your chances of more Golds as your lower gen mare herds are improved. Remember, breeding those gen 5 Blues is still giving you nice show ponies, which are worth their weight in gold as they should have nice juicy high PTs.