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- Abbey Road September 2015
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Acquiring new Barns, Tattoos and Era mixing Questions
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Can you only do this by paying real money for them?
I know they are on sale right now, I was just wondering if there's another way of getting them.
Another question while I'm here, does anybody know which format the tattoo file has to be in to work? I haven't clicked to make one yet, but I am curious and have some ideas for what I want to do.
I assume you can only put your tattoos on horses you have bred, and currently own?
How important is it to breed horses within the same era? Are they classified as 'bad' if they are mixed era? I accidentally made a mixed era foal but I think he's cute. -
You can get barns by paying IV' s, which you can get by exchanging in game money for them. See the IV manager page.
Tattoos, as far as I know, have to be made in the in game editor. You can tattoo any horse you own, you don't have to have bred it.
Some people might have preferences about eras, but there is not nearly the same taboo in t the game about mixing eras that there is about mixing generations. If you breed different era horses they'll match the earliest era. I personally don't care too much if eras are mixed.
Hope that helps :) -
As a new player with not much game money, buying barns with real money works out cheaper.
Mixing generations as in inbreeding?
Tattoos just became a whole lot scarier.. Is the editor like paint?
Thanks Abbey for responding. I had another question but I forgot it when I saw you had replied ;) -
No, as in breeding a foundation horse to a horse with a long lineage. I wrote this post on it a while back, might be a helpful thread. Inbreeding is mostly okay in the game and lots of us do it.
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum.php#/discussion/1272 -
That's a great thread, but could you explain to me what GMT's do?
Also, can the horses you have in the pasture still show, or would you need to remove them to the barn for that? Would they then lose their bonuses? -
GMTs allow you to change the genes that a horse has. The horse has to be color tested, intact, under 5 years old, and have no foals. Foundations can have any genes altered, although some are expensive. Lined horses can be GMTed only with genes they could have inherited from their parents, but all changes cost only 1 GMT. It is also possible to use 1 GMT to make an inconsistent horse perfectly consistent (if the auto-geld button was unchecked when it was tested), and to use 2 GMTs to switch a horse's gender.
Horses can not show while they in the pasture and do loose any pasture bonus they have accumulated if you take them out to show. Any show points they hold do still count toward your weekly bonus while they are in the pasture though.I was jllewis on the old forum.
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Horses in the pastures cannot be shown without removing them to a barn, and yes, that does cause the mares to lose their breeding bonus.
GMT's are genetic modification tokens. You can buy them for real-life cash and use them to change specific genes you are interested in to foundation horses that are intact, color-tested, no older than 4 years old and that have no living foals. Common colors and patterns cost 1 token per allele, rarer colors and some of the limited edition colors and patterns cost more, depending on their rarity. The limited edition genes are not always available.
You can also modify a lined horse by giving it a gene that one of its parents has that it did not get. For instance, if the foal missed Champagne from its sire and other than the missing champagne gene it has everything else you were looking for, you can color test it (if the other qualifications are met as to age, lack of foals, etc.) and then give it the missing gene. In this case, the cost of each allele you are changing is 1 token.
You can also change a horse's white factor, gender, PATN (I think), and consistency. The last is very helpful if you get an inconsistent foal and had the automatic neutering unchecked. After making the foal perfectly consistent, you will need to retest for PT and consistency, because being inconsistent lowers a horse's PT.
De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592 -
Ok let me see if I'm understanding this. You can change small genes for one GMT? Do you have to know which colour gene name means what? I'd struggle with that for sure, it'll take me a while to pick them all up. Plus the 2k fee for each colour test- as a new player who is buying her money with real money, that's not my best option right now :P
But, if you have a foundation stallion who is nearly perfect in your eyes, you would use GMT to make it perfect?
So you would be seeking a 9.9 PAT with consistency and the colours you want for it?
Thank you ladies (are you both ladies? my sincere apologies if not) for answering my questions so thoroughly.
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Did my horses get auto trained in the 100 space barn you get with premium upgrade?
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You don't need to know the gene codes, the GMT lab explains each gene.
Here is the price list for the GMT lab:
1 GMT: Black, Bay (including wild bay and brown), Cream, Dun, Gray, Flaxen, Sooty, pangare, Kit roan, WF, PATN, Consistency
2 GMTs: Pearl, Silver, Champagne, Kit: White 1 and 2 Sabino 1 and tobiano, Splash 1, Appaloosa, Rabicano, Frame, Gender switch
3 GMT3: Kit sabino 2
4 GMTs: Splash 2
5 GMTs: Kit White 3 and 4
10 GMTs: Gulastra Plume
15 GMTs: Sooty+
20 GMTs: Kit sabino 3
40 GMTs: Satin, Ice 1
You definitely want to start with a quality horse that is as close to your goal as possible, although PT doesn't really matter since that only deals with showing ability, not breeding ability.
Yes we are both ladies. In fact, SandyCreek is my mother. :DI was jllewis on the old forum.
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Thanks for that list Ondowa- It's funny but until you put that up I was having trouble understanding things you had said earlier- like I was learning algebra and I had skipped a step! Now that I've seen that I actually GET it.
May I ask, what kind of goals do people tend to go for? I'm still working out what is considered good vs common. -
The wonderful thing about this game is that you can choose you own goals and work toward them. Some players like to choose a single color/pattern or a limited number of them and work to develop a line with a lot of consistency in appearance. Some people try to create lines with as many white genes per horse as is compatible with not risking lethal gene combinations. A good many players combine that sort of thing with working to very strict culling standards so that they get a better paper level with each generation (or almost every generation. The higher you go the harder that is). Other people (me, included) haven't seen a color or pattern they don't like, are constantly starting new lines, and mainly play for fun, looking for general improvement each generation without getting too compulsive about specific papering goals. Actually, I think I most enjoy getting to understand quite a bit about how the game works and helping new players understand it, but my primary gift is for teaching, so that's not too weird. For all I know, there may be players whose goal is to breed wonderful showing horses by breeding longer lined horses with high PT's to lower generation mares, but many players would not be interested in buying their output, since they are looking for horses whose ancestors are all the same generation, every time.
Since selling foals isn't the best way to make money in the game, you would have to keep an eye on the forum to see what people are breeding for and if they are interested in getting outside blood into their lines if you wanted to focus in any way on that and then matching your breeding program to what others are doing.
De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592 -
Thanks for that, its good information to mull over.
Right now, when I (or someone has shared one) have a rare or interesting sounding HH, I can't help but make one.. maybe two.. ok maybe 3... Terrible habit. Very expensive!! -
I thing that most of us have that habit. I know I do! :DI was jllewis on the old forum.
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An expensive habit. ARGH! I want more of everything! Hahaha