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If you have multiple horses it accumulates. When i first joined i didnt understamd the system either but you will get used to it

There is no gestation time on the game. A mare can have one foal each breeding season, and when you click the breed mare button, the foal appears instantly and her foal count goes up to 1. Then she cannot have another until the next breeding season, and it doesn't matter if she had her foal at the beginning or end of the breeding season, at the beginning of the next, her foal count resets.

About selling to FSYYC, you get 1000 hb immediately. If you don't mind waiting, you could enter the horses in the public auction and get 2250 hb each when the auction ends.

I hope that helps! :D

CLynnRose, so basically 1 foal per month? Thanks for your detailed response, I learned a few things from it.

Ondowa, after showing all of my horses twice, my bonus is 4 hb's. Haha. I did read the breeding info a few times hoping I had just missed the info I wanted, but it wasn't there.

Does spaying horses change anything about them? What is the point of it?

How many hours a day do you think you spend playing? Is it worth the money to be a premium player? I'm chronically ill and considered disabled, so I do have a lot of spare time on my hands.

When Howrse came out I played it a lot and spent a lot of money, was number 2 in the game and then got hacked and my account was 'closed from the inside' according to the company. They refused to refund any of my money or reopen my account. Does that kind of thing happen a lot here?

Also, is there any point in me logging in over the next few days?

This is basically a game of long range planning and patience. It can be slow starting out, but as you create and breed more horses, the pace picks up and you may find yourself with more to do than you have time for in a week.

Don't forget to train your horses as well as showing them. You can train them once per week. With each training, they will add a certain number of points to the score they will make when they show. They work their way up through the Levels and Grades, which you can see spelled out on the "My Show Entries" page.

You might want to browse through the "Help me out" section here in the forum. You will find posts where other new members asked questions and got them answered. It will help you understand the game a little better and give you something to log in for.

Great! I'm glad that you didn't really need that advice, but some people do. I look forward to seeing you around the forum, and hope that you'll soon be as addicted to the game as many of us are. It's amazing how attached we get to our pixel ponies.

I still feel as though a lot of this game is going over my head, but I'm sure with some time it'll get easier!
I just had to buy some coins as I saw the Facebook share for the 'Rank 5: Gold Champagne Splash Tobiano' and didn't have enough to get another horse- I made too many! Also wouldn't have had enough for the breeding season when that starts again.

Could someone please explain to me about Straws? It seems they are a level 2 thing which obviously is 190 horses away, but can you breed without them?
Also Cloning, and Egg Collection and Mass Egg Flush?

How long did it typically take you to start earning a profit with showing and/or breeding?
How do I find a stud on the market when breeding season starts?

Sorry for all the questions! I'm super curious though.

Ammit, this is your game, yes? I spent a few hours reading forums today.

Thanks for taking the time to explain that, Ammit.

If you upgrade your account, and then let it go back to basic, what happens to the horses who were in the bonus space?

My home page says I have 7.5 points and will earn 5hbs for the week. Probably can't get much more than that until I get a lot more horses!

When you search for stallions, does it come up only with the ones people are happy for the public to breed with? Or do you need to check each page to find out?

How many active players does the game have?

Bonus stalls are yours and don't ago away. Your get extra stalls in addition to bonus stalls with an upgrade. If the upgrade expires the stalls go away but the horses just sit in the barn. You can't breed or show them until you get the numbers down so you aren't over stuffed but nothing happens to the horses.

I was looking at the number of points you had earned so far. It was 98 when I looked. It looks like you have been getting rid of horses and that is why your points are dropping. You have to hang on to horses so they can accumulate points. I only have 47 horses and have 3029, so you really don't need tons of horses.

Horses up for public stud are up for everyone. Some people might have rules listed on the horse's page and it's polite to follow them but they can't technically make you. Horses up for public breeding are up for everyone to use and that is listed in the rules of the game :)

Just load the page again. You get one every day.

^ Thank you, I refreshed, you were correct :)

The show points do not reset monthly, they accumulate for the entire life of the horse, and your showing bonus is a percentage of all the points of all your horses. The Stable Overview and horse pages do list the points and hbs for the month, but the showing bonus comes from the total points.

The rank of the herd helper has to do with how rare the color is. Basic, common horse colors are rank 1. The more patterns or rare genes, the higher the rank, up to rank 5. Rank specials are the most rare, and all are perfect foundations in addition to their special color (the lower ranks have random breeding and training ability for the color HHs). The rank of the HH also determines how many you get to create and how many shares there are, wit higher ranks having fewer creates and fewer shares.

Thanks Ondowa, some useful info and advice in there. I have more questions still!

So the daily Herd Helper is completely random? New free players and long time premium players have the same chance to get a rank 5 horse? How many rank 5 horses are you allowed to make if you get that HH?
What is a rank special?

So your weekly hb bonus is based on how many total points your horses have? Does that mean if you bought a horse from somebody, and it has loads of points, they would be included in your total and add to your bonus?

My thought based off that is that I need to get a lot of horses, pronto. Breeding seems to be a cheaper option than creation. If it says to wait and see, does that mean the breeding and show potentials are close to each other?
I'm now seeing that it may be better to wait and see what I get from the HH each day and create from there until I have horses worth breeding.
Do the total points of the sire and dam affect the foal in any way? Meaning, does it matter if you train them up first, or not.

Another question!
Does your horses' level (at which he competes) change automatically when they gain points, or is it something you need to change yourself?

Which horse? :) I joined thursday so I showed twice all my horses that day, and just showed again today and yesterday. :) You get the points from showing, I guess some are good showers!

Yes, the Daily Herd Helper is random. I always post mine here in the forum because someone else might be interested, even if I'm not. And it's a good thing to check out what other players have posted, because a color/pattern you're interested in may show up. The higher the rank of the herd helper, the fewer shares there are and the fewer horses each share allows you to make, so the higher rank ones get snapped up very quickly. I will have to make a chart of the numbers of horses given by the herd helper ranks. Rank Special herd helpers are ones that Ammit has created for special occasions. They allow you to make one horse, share one, and get a bonus of one additional horse for each one shared, I think. My daughter is pretty sure that with Rank 2 and Rank 3 horses, you get three horses to start and three shares with one additional horse per share. The person who takes the share gets one horse.

Yes, if you buy a horse its points come with it. If you sell a horse, its points go to the new owner, or vanish from the game if it gets sold to the meat buyer or if it dies at the yearly roll over. Horses have a chance to die at that time once they reach the age of 18, but some do survive longer. Older horses can continue to be shown, even after they stop gaining points with training and can be bred until they turn 20.

The cost of breeding includes 1000 hbs for the vet fee and whatever the stud/brood fee is for the stallion or mare. If you have your own stallion you can set his stud fee as low as 1 hb. There's actually no change in your bank account for the stud fee of your own horse, since you are paying it to yourself, but the game programming requires a stud fee. If you have mares and a stallion in your pasture, they will be bred around the middle of the month. The fee is 500 per breeding (your primary pasture page will tell you how many mares you have eligible to breed and what it will cost.).

When Lucas says wait and see about a horse, it means that the breeding ability is not significantly lower than the showing ability. It might be somewhat lower, about the same, or higher. Mare advice compares mares to their dams and neuters those that are significantly worse for breeding without reference to showing ability. Gelding advice does the same thing for colts and their sires. Breeding ability and Showing ability are two separate values in a horse's code so you cannot look at a horse's Performance Test score (PT) to determine how good it will be as a breeder.

The show score has nothing to do with either of those two values. That automatically increases when you train a horse, and the amount gained depends on the horse's showing ability score. Horses may be consistent or inconsistent, which refers to whether they get the exact same score each time they show in a week or if their is some variation. The amount of inconsistency can range from +/- one point above and below the base score for the week (a possible swing of 3 points) to considerably more than that. Horses that test as inconsistent will be +/- at least 3 points in a given week and their scores may vary even more than that, depending on the exact number assigned to their consistency.

Thank you everyone who has taken the time to read and respond. I appreciate it very much.

nycequestrian, your horse Laney, which has 18 points- mine didn't gain more than 1 point each from competition?

SandyCreek, loads of good information in there, thank you. I read it a few times to make sure I would retain it!

Salvistar, thank you for going back to see what hadn't been answered. Your Q and A technique is great!

Questions:

Are you better off training a horse before breeding it, or is the foal unaffected by this?

How does the Performance Test score work?

Thanks Ondowa. What should I do with horses with low PT scores (4.1 and 5.8), and what is considered to be a fair PT score, and a high PT score?

For foundation horse, the breeding and showing scores are determined completely randomly and have no connection at all, so if they pass their testing they could easily be perfectly good breeders. If you like their color, keep and breed them. They aren't likely to earn many points as showers, but they will earn a few. If they are common colors, at this point you might do better to replace them with horses who will be good at both breeding and showing, since you are probably short of stalls. The Foundation Rescue, owner 13 in the horse search, is always a good source of perfect foundations although the rescue hasn't been training its horses, so if you will want to look at the younger ones who will have missed less training, if you want them for both showing and breeding.

The PT score of a perfect foundation is 9.9. Generally anything above 9 is decent. If you breed two perfect foundations together, the range of possible PT's is 8.9 to 10.4, as determined by an experiment performed several years ago and posted on the old forum by one of the players. Once you get into higher generations, the PT scores can go up from there. The highest PT foal on the Era 0 Leaderboard for year 26 was 14.0.

Another question!

In regards to papering, how does the grading system work?

Mare papering levels from lowest to highest are: Failed, Yellow, Red, Blue, *Gold. The mare papering requires a mare to have at least 3 living foals and is judged on the quality of those foals. Perfect foundations will paper either yellow or red. Decent 2nd gens paper red, by 3rd gen you should get a few blues, although high red is more likely, etc.

Stallion papering levels from lowest to highest are: Showable Only, C, B, A, *Star. The stallion papering is judged solely on his breeding ability number and can be performed at birth. Perfect foundations paper C, 2nd gens should be B papered, 3rd gen should be either high B (comparison tested superior to B papered sire) or A.

When you create a foundation horse WITHOUT using a herd helper, does that mean the colour is completely random, or that only base colours are possible?

So, black would be the rarest colour?

Or do people just go for what they think is pretty?

Oh I love the speckled bay.
I got a liver chestnut in my first attempts of foundations, so have seen that :)
I did some reading about genes on the original haj forums as couldn't find it here. I know it will be a little different but at least gives me some idea of what's going on.

Yes the third, I think it might be one of my favourites, too.
I used to be obsessed with Liver Chestnuts when I was a kid.