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Gen 3 mare quality question
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Hi y'all!
As many of you know, I've been working hard to improve my herd breeding quality, especially since I did that mass cull and sale several months ago. Since then I've had major breakthroughs in stallion quality at gen 3 and 4 and I couldn't be happier.
I have run into a quandary with my gen 3 mares, however, and I'm hoping some of you experienced breeders looking for a significant increase in breeding quality in each generation can help me.
I get a few Blue papered gen 2 mares but mostly they are Reds. They are all required to maintain an AFPT of 10.5 and above.
At gen 4 I require my mares to paper Blue and I am culling Reds. They have to maintain an AFPT of 11.3 and above.
At gen 3 I am hoping to transition to requiring Blue papers as well. At the moment about a third of my newly papered mares each season in this gen are Papering Blue. The stallions I am using are mostly fairly young and most mares have at least one foal from an inferior stallion in their offspring. I require an AFPT of 11.0.
Here is my quandary: I have Red mares in this gen that are meeting my AFPT requirements, sometimes by several tenths of a point. Do I cull them for Papering Red? Do I give them a couple more seasons and re-paper? Do I cull the ones that are just scraping through but keep the ones with AFPTs above 11.2?
I have mares that are up to 9 years old waiting in foal barns to get into one of these pastures just to get a shot, so replacement mares are not a problem.
Since there is so much forum traffic right now I figured this is a good chance to get opinions. Any help you can offer is greatly appreciated! -
I'd spay your red gen3's. If they met your AFPT requirements I wouldn't necessarily get rid of the foals though, give them a chance. But at least the mares you keep on breeding are the best ones. Slowly you'll have more and more blue gen3's and you probably won't want to keep the reds unless something special
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Cool! I figured that was where I needed to move but I was hesitating!
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Think of all the space you will clear in the pastures!Thanked by 1ConfluenceFarms
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Yep trust the papers. AFPT can be pushed up or down by the stallions more than papering can.
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Can a mare be repapered? I am thinking of doing a cull on my horses. But not sure one chooses what mares are best to keep.
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Awesome y'all! And yes, there are about to be a ton of new show ponies in my barns and a lot of middle aged maiden mares in my pastures! Which leaves more room for new foals in the foal barns! Yay!
Best, yes you can repaper mares. It only makes sense if you have made a pretty big change to the quality of stallion that mare has been bred to, or maybe if you've started using the pasture bonus. I'm not sure it ever makes financial sense though...I've tried with a few foundation mares when I was starting out and pretty much ended up culling every mare, just 3 or 4 seasons after I would have culled her. -
Sweet cheers.