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Hypothetical GMTing
  • HunterUnderSaddleGirlHunterUnderSaddleGirl
    I have this boy,

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    1G GMT Sir Morgenstern

    Morgenstern will be available for breeding next season, and I am considering some minor GMT tweaks. I have other projects that are more important.... but... I still enjoy tossing ideas around. What would you add to him if he was yours?

    -Trying to stay with open genes only. Especially since he's only a PF, I need to save, and I want to share him with everyone. (But please help me if axiom green or a new gene comes out this month or next month)
    - Assuming you would be interested in straws how important would it be to you that I take one or both copies of frame off? I 'm debating about it myself, but I do not plan on breeding his offspring together... Most of them will cross with my 2G liver snowflake stud (I have a surprise hidden single copy of snowflake on Morgenstern just to make things exciting...) Others will cross with White Walker children to add their DP... And I require 2G A's... so I doubt I would get all that many colts out of him anyway. But if it made a big impact in his shareability?
    -Would a copy of regular Dun look weird/cool on him? I did look up Nd1/D + liver, but only saw a handlful.
    -(I do have some other ideas with.... "thinking aloud" thoughts on his notes too)
    -Other ideas you have? Hypothetical of course...
    Breeder of any and all crazy colored drafts and RH horses.
  • HunterUnderSaddleGirlHunterUnderSaddleGirl
    White Walker for reference

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    1G The White Walker
    Breeder of any and all crazy colored drafts and RH horses.
  • DivineDreamsDivineDreams
    What about Sb2? It's open and funky!
    DivineDreams ~ 30908
    Breeder of KitM, W10, W3, Livers, Chocolates, Brown, S+, Pearl, Macchiato, Nexus, and WaterColor!
  • HunterUnderSaddleGirlHunterUnderSaddleGirl
    That would be cool! I just recently (re)discovered sabino. I recently got some to mix around with my herds. But problem is for that much I could boost him to an expro.... I also have two other I would wish too boost first.

    But imagine this expression:

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    Dark Stars Patch work

    on Morgenstern's base coat... :x

    Definitely an idea. Oh! What if it comes up in RGS again?
    Breeder of any and all crazy colored drafts and RH horses.
  • DivineDreamsDivineDreams
    Lol I know eh? It also looks really good with w3
    DivineDreams ~ 30908
    Breeder of KitM, W10, W3, Livers, Chocolates, Brown, S+, Pearl, Macchiato, Nexus, and WaterColor!
  • HunterUnderSaddleGirlHunterUnderSaddleGirl
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    UW A109 IcedVette 3so I1



    Never heard of that combo before! But it looks great. I don't know if I even have any w3 horses.
    Breeder of any and all crazy colored drafts and RH horses.
  • DivineDreamsDivineDreams
    W3 is fun. It's. One of my faves. W3, Kit M, W10 and Sb2. Love them.
    DivineDreams ~ 30908
    Breeder of KitM, W10, W3, Livers, Chocolates, Brown, S+, Pearl, Macchiato, Nexus, and WaterColor!
  • DivineDreamsDivineDreams
    I've been getting away from Appaloosas as they fade white and I don't see the point of having a pretty horse that goes white. Yes my SpM has Lp which I kinda regret now.
    DivineDreams ~ 30908
    Breeder of KitM, W10, W3, Livers, Chocolates, Brown, S+, Pearl, Macchiato, Nexus, and WaterColor!
  • DivineDreamsDivineDreams
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    4G2630998
    DivineDreams ~ 30908
    Breeder of KitM, W10, W3, Livers, Chocolates, Brown, S+, Pearl, Macchiato, Nexus, and WaterColor!
  • HunterUnderSaddleGirlHunterUnderSaddleGirl
    Yes. Sometimes I get frustrated by varnish too. I wish I knew an affective way to breed it out... I know Ammit said we could, but look what Bolutus turned into

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    1G Boletus Maculosus

    And the difference in these two just from age. One is a clone so you can see what the older one looked like when she was younger.

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    Pull 2G BSF 3351537

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    2G AWS a Happy Day

    Do you have much problems lethality wise wise with w3 and sabino.
    Breeder of any and all crazy colored drafts and RH horses.
  • levesel2levesel2
    I would love to remove at least one frame and add KitM and possibly hom pearl
    Watercolor, Chinchilla, Axiom, Nexus, Wrong Warp, Nacre, Ice 5/8, Satin and Pearl
  • HunterUnderSaddleGirlHunterUnderSaddleGirl
    :\"> ooh! That would be dreamy! Unfortunately I don’t think I could afford that on RGS or GMT....
    Breeder of any and all crazy colored drafts and RH horses.
  • MariaChapinFarm3MariaChapinFarm3
    Id take away one frame, add hom pearl, and maybe add some hidden kit promoter or gulastra plume.
  • HaltannyHaltanny
    I have several mares in their teens that haven't faded much at all. They have, i assume, VV instead of Vrn or Vsf. If anyone is serious about breeding away from heavy varnish, i can pull eggs.

    This girl, for example, is 18 years old.
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    1B CA By the Dram



    As for the original, i'd take off one frame. That gives the option to GMT off frame if a foal gets it and the owner really doesn't want it. Personally, i have enough variety in my lines i could find a mate without frame, so it wouldn't deter me. I love surprises, so my recent projects have genes that will pop up in later generations. You could do het KP, or hom with only one kit. Or GP, since it wont show on chestnut. That would go with your suprise Snowflake. :)
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  • HunterUnderSaddleGirlHunterUnderSaddleGirl
    Yes please on eggs from that mare!

    I LOVE the hidden KP idea! Can’t believe I didn’t think of that. Hope it comes up tonight. And although I can dream about kitm I could probably afford something like tobiano. Roan maybe... but in his case I don’t really want to make him look lighter. I like liver red road. And I like liver red dun. But not liver red roan dun.

    I think I have to agree with on taking off a frame. What if he does get a colt I like and then I’m stuck?
    Breeder of any and all crazy colored drafts and RH horses.
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