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Pointed, WIld Bay Dun RS Dark Chocolate Draft Filly
  • There are others on the public sales list currently for 500k...not sure why this one was voted off for being listed at the same price.

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    Wild Bay Dun RS Dk Choc
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    And Silver Blue Pearls
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  • They're het DP, so genetically speaking not worth as much as, say, a Cherry Drop or Freaky Friday. The only extra value they have is in being a "special event" that doesn't happen as often. Just because someone can put it up on the sales list doesn't mean that's the price it's going for - in fact, the fact that you still see it sitting there likely means no one wants it for that price. After all, you only bought it for 10k. (Which admittedly is a bit low - I've seen them going for 50-100k so far)

    For the best profit, since you seem to be looking to buy and flip, I'd suggest running a forum auction. Point out the wild bay/dun, which is kinda neat, and the points (though it's not a huge number of points, it's still something) to help advertise it. Forum auctioned horses often sell for the higher end of market value when they're the only item in an auction.
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    God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
  • @Lallyhop I don't disagree with you, however, the fact is that the market should determine what something is worth. My main point of the post is that the price vote is silly imo if some get knocked off for being a certain price but not others. There are currently two others on the public sales list for that same price. Perhaps its main purpose is to keep a ton of "overpriced" listings from clogging up the list. Lots of players flip for profit so I am not apologizing for that.
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And Silver Blue Pearls
    Focusing on Sooty Plus, Sb2, W3 and W10
  • It's entirely possible they haven't been voted down because no one has seen them. You advertised yours, and therefore called attention to it. As it goes, the "market" is what people have paid, not what people are asking. I can ask 1 mil for a plain foundation with no points, but that doesn't mean it will sell. :)

    Since everything currently on the public sales list is over 100k, that means anything under 100k likely got snatched up. That's not to say 500k couldn't sell, but it does seem unreasonable compared to what has sold in the forum so far. You could probably safely put yours up for 100k and get that, though it may take a while, or as I suggested a forum auction (calling attention to the two "special" genes and the points) might net you even more.
    ISO any and all Silver Pocket Watches!

    God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
  • I also think it’s fair to point out that just because something sold on HJ1 for a certain amount, doesn’t mean it will sell on HJ2 for the same amount. I have seen Chinchilla foundation eggs selling for close to 200k on HJ1 as a starting point, while our starting point seems to hover between 25-50k. It’s just the difference in economies between the different servers.
  • This is actually quite amusing...
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  • exactly what fallen said. on hj1 ive seen even STRAWS sell for 100k, but if you attempted to sell them here for that price you would get laughed at. (mind you, the horse only had an axtra copy of pearl!)

    i think its because the players on that server are more established and HAVE the funds to throw at straws and eggs, but on this server there are newer players that simply cant afford that. ( ipso facto- inflation, deflation, it all depends on the market and how much money the majority has)
  • and lemme say, i do see where you are coming from dueling, but just because one or two are being sold for that price does NOT mean that yours is worth that much. i sold mine for 100k, but that was to a really well established player that ADORES the rank special.
  • Funny enough, now that we called attention to it with this thread, one of the 500k and one 300k have since been voted down. :P
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    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
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  • It's funny to get schooled by ya'll when we've all been playing the same amount of time. It is worth what someone is willing to pay for it; let the market decide--none of the rest of it matters. The fact is we should be able to list for whatever price we want and if people want to piss and spit over it or get a good laugh then that's their right...but it shouldn't be censored...THAT is my only point.
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And Silver Blue Pearls
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  • Like you say, the ability to vote down is likely to keep the sales listings from being crowded. It can also be a tool to help teach newer/inexperienced players the worth of a horse. (Say, for example, a new player tries to post a plain create for 50k, and it gets voted down - that might be enough to prompt them to ask why on the forum, so that others can help them explain a better price, rather than none of their horses selling because they don't know how to price, and them getting frustrated with it).
    ISO any and all Silver Pocket Watches!

    God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
  • If a new player is frustrated because they are not selling, it may actually prompt them to explore and learn the search feature to compare the going rate of something similar to what they have, and/or getting advice from other players via the Forum. Also the sales boards are wiped at the start of each month and each horse has to be individually relisted anyway so that is already a way that listings are moderated. Again, my issue is with censorship based on other players opinions.
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And Silver Blue Pearls
    Focusing on Sooty Plus, Sb2, W3 and W10
  • Again, I see that it can be a learning tool and sales list moderation tool, and it can also be a way to allow the community a voice without having to, say, send the player in question a PM (which would be much more intrusive.

    You seem really frustrated about the fact that your horse was voted down, even after seeing explanations offered and being told that others of the same price have been voted down. Perhaps you could PM Confluence or Ammit to express your concerns about this aspect of the game. I'm sure they would be willing to go into more detail about why they chose to institute that capability.
    ISO any and all Silver Pocket Watches!

    God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
  • @duelinghawks The voting system has been in place for awhile and it seems to work pretty well, plus Ammit has kept it in so far. People can only vote for the horse once, so if you re-list after being taking off the board, you can just put it back up again if you think it's worth that much and that's what I would suggest that you do! Maybe it used to be a bigger issue in the past on HJ1, but people would sometimes put foundation up (or other kinds of pixel ponies worth create price) at astronomical prices and there wasn't a good way to give pricing feedback. The sales board was getting flooded and people were complaining about it on the forum, but not everyone was on the forum. The forum used to be on a different website entirely so not everyone had a forum account and not everyone checked the forum. It became enough of an issue that the voting system was implemented and this would alert a person (whether or not they used the forum or checked resources about pricing), and I always thought it worked well but I know my opinion doesn't matter. Hope I'm remembering all that correctly, it's been awhile. Not trying to "school you," just giving some context. :) Do you think it should be more like a notification sort of thing where you get a notification if the horse has been voted for but the horse remains on the board? On another note, do you think the dun is why people are voting her down?
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  • I am frustrated by censorship based on people's feelings...basically the same problem with our current political climate. I have a hard time believing over-priced pixel ponies bogs down the system or really confuses newer players. I could be wrong.
    Nevertheless, Ammit has the price vote in place for a reason then, so be it. I don't need the hbs as my show bonus provides that amount in under a week.
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    And Silver Blue Pearls
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  • Newer player here - Can I chime in with just a quick question? What does it mean for a sales price to be voted down?
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  • If you disagree with a price and think it is way too high, you can hit vote. If the horse gets 3 votes it is removed from the sales list and the owner is notifided. The vote button is at the bottom of all horses posted for public sales page.
  • Do you have to have a certain membership level to do that? I would swear I've never seen that button and I've been haunting the sales pages for pointed ponies.
  • It's right under the horses purchase price and above the genetics results. I'm pretty sure anyone can vote but not 100% sure on that.
  • I don’t think I’ve seen it on horses who’s price was below 50,000.
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  • 30k is the exact cutoff, I believe. Any horse below that can't be voted, once it hits 30k the button appears.
    ISO any and all Silver Pocket Watches!

    God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
    Thanked by 1AgainstTheOdds
  • @ duelinghawks You have to realize that yes certain people have joined at the same time you have. But that does not mean that they do not know more than you. They just may. Or maybe they do because they have accounts on HJ1, that they have had longer. Ammit herself has said that Rank Specials are over priced. I personally would not buy, lets say a Wet N Wild for 25K that I can get for between 5 and 10K. I don't' think anyone is trying to be rude to you or Schooling you. They are just trying to explain to you.
  • @Xceptional @Lallyhop @FallenShadows714 @MariaChapinFarm3 People don't seem to get my point. I have played long enough and bought, sold, and flipped enough to know the average of what something is "worth" here. I buy and sell in real life for living, so I find it a fun and challenging aspect of the game as well. I've made between 500k and a million hbs in one day on a few occasions so I can assure you there are plenty of players out there for whom dropping 500k hbs is not a huge deal. Lots of us are willing to spend a large amount for a novelty, for fun, or to help out other players. Alot of players have massive daily showing bonuses so the value of the hb is vastly different from player to player.

    It is the fact that other players can censor a sales listing based on their opinion that I take issue with...that's all.
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And Silver Blue Pearls
    Focusing on Sooty Plus, Sb2, W3 and W10

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