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NxtLevelGlen · Nov 5, 2018 2:23 AM

This filly sums up my hand breeding thus far this season.. Confirmed that my Milestone grandson is Het snowflake! Buuut she’s spayed.

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And only one of many lovely new show ponies. Every one has been snipped or mediocre PT. Hoping for better luck when pastures open!

NxtLevelGlen · Nov 5, 2018 2:28 AM

PattersonFarm · Nov 5, 2018 2:33 AM

I know how you feel. I had one last time to breed one of my Mares (can’t afford to pull eggs) I mean she was old so next time she’d either be dead or unable to breed... bred her with a stud straw that was from an amazing stud...

Snipped and mediocre PT.

I thought I had thought this breeding through to get the best outcome... guess not lol

Now I’ll probably avoid the breeding lab... there’s no foal boost or anything... so I mean it probably would have gone better if she had been in the pasture for some time and he had been able to pasture breed.

Sad day

Cheers · Nov 5, 2018 4:08 AM

The lab is such a rollercoaster...some of those foals are super expensive duds. And for those of us who pasture breed a lot, the quality you get out of the lab is so hit and miss...it’s rough! Somehow the duds I get out of the pasture never hurt quite as much because I know I got a whole batch of foals!

BurntHillCreek · Nov 5, 2018 4:28 AM

I have had this same issue for three seasons now. Many show ponies and very few to further my lines, and I'm trying to breed evenly. I just do not know and it is becoming frustrating.

NxtLevelGlen · Nov 5, 2018 12:54 PM

I hope we all get some gems this season! Yes, I feel like I get spoiled with the pasture bonus too and expect too much from the lab/hand bred foals. I’m eager to further my white 10 lines but only have an A colt to show so far!

PattersonFarm · Nov 5, 2018 5:05 PM

My pasture experience was a complete fail! The pasture was not kinder xD Lol I bred maybe 45 foals and out of them got maybe 5 intact colts (who barely meet my standards) and 2 intact fillies (who also barely meet my standards.)

Still tryna learn what went wrong. Buuuut I guess ...yay for show ponies? Lol

RusticPineFarms · Nov 5, 2018 7:27 PM

@PattersonFarm Mine also was a flop. I bred 41 mares between 2 different studs, 1 foal didn't make it, and got 3 intact colts, and one intact fillies. :(

Haltanny · Nov 5, 2018 7:33 PM

I had very good luck in my pastures so far. (Knock on wood). I love all the fillies I get, but it makes to so hard to narrow down the colts when you get a bunch of really good ones.

MariaChapinFarm3 · Nov 5, 2018 8:24 PM

i had about 70 foals. guess how many stayed intact after SBA got ahold of them? how many foals werent just plain white, with AWFUL point scores?

20. TWENTY. twenty foals out of 70 (This is with a full pasture bonus, mind you! most of them were experfs as well). i only got one A papered 2nd gen stud colt from the pasture, and i wanna cry. (i usually get 3-4)

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PattersonFarm · Nov 5, 2018 9:11 PM

@RusticPineFarms I was really hoping to have my G2 line filled out and ready to go.... Lol. El. Oh. El.

@MariaChapinFarm3 The pasture breeding gods were not shining over us. I had some with a full pasture bonus too. So disappointing. And my one snowflake foal got snipped. Maybe I’ll remember this breeding season next time I go to buy a horse gene with real money lol! It’s a great money saver, actually, because I was ready to buy all the genes. But I just don’t think I will considering breeding isn’t how I thought it would be. Lol I figured if you bred good horse w good horse with a pasture bonus and thought your breeding through— then your foal would be good. But most of mine were low PT, and snipped so pretty useless to me. I’d love to keep low PT foals too BUT I don’t have the room. I gotta cull them somehow. Sad day.

Bandit1119 · Nov 6, 2018 5:45 AM

Last season I kept track of my hj1 foals. After testing and before hand snipping I had around 1:4 ratios of intact : show horse. Then I went and hand culled about 100 more filly and stud colts.

I love my show horses and I would rather not breed a season so I can afford another barn to keep my foals to show than sell foals to make room to breed more.

Your show horses are your bread and butter. They are the ones building barns not the ones filling them up (a breeding mare can fill a 15stall barn on her own over her lifetime costing a minimum of 70,000hbs not including any additional testing of the foals, if you leave her in the pasture to get better bonuses she won’t likely repay you. My current show horse herd covers the lifetime costs of over 42 mares each month)

Breeding evenly (matching paper levels and generations) with lower generation horses will increase your odds of intact horses. And for the average foal PT increase a .5 raise of the horses combined and averaged foals pt is pretty good.

PattersonFarm · Nov 6, 2018 8:54 AM

@Bandit1119

I use my create show bonus to get show ponies and I buy horses with points already established. As a new barn with limited space, having a bunch of foals that can’t start showing and bringing in points for a little while can become a problem. If I was a bigger barn then it wouldn’t be a big deal at all as I love Show Horses more than I love my breeders.

Plus I think everyone can agree that it’s frustrating to have some of your best colored and PTd horses, snipped. That’s all stuff you wanna keep breeding. So it’s a sad day to have that happen lol

PattersonFarm · Nov 6, 2018 8:58 AM

Honestly I just keep the foals with PT above 10 for 2gen, and the rest I auction so that they don’t clutter my barns. And I love my show ponies. I have a strong appreciation for them but breeding season still hurts sometimes lol

kintara · Nov 6, 2018 10:29 AM

I just bred one stallion to 50 mares in the pasture, I got 7 intact colts which I will likely geld a few more, and 9 intact fillies after SBA. I'm happy with that! It was gen3 so the quality was a bit mixed so I figure quite a good outcome, a few superior colts included.

My lab breeding was a bit dismal, but I did eventually get a few intacts! This was my favourite lab breeding foal, doesn't look that exciting but he's het satin, het mushroom, as well as het DP and Kp, plus superior to sire! Made up for all the fails!

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Lallyhop · Nov 6, 2018 10:19 PM

I'm very happy with my pastures this year! All sorts of goodies, including a surprise KP and a nice handful of golds :x

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Sometimes even when you've done everything right, it just boils down to luck! Maybe try sacrificing a few colt testicles to the great goddess Arengee and see if your luck improves, lol! :))

NxtLevelGlen · Nov 7, 2018 12:08 AM

@lallyhop omg I’m dying here! Sacrifice the testicles! :))

Got my fingers and toes crossed I get some pasture magic tomorrow

TrueBlueHorses · Nov 7, 2018 1:54 PM

I had an absolute shock when I bred my pastures this season. Somehow luck was on my side this time, as every other season ~80% of my G2 pasture bred foals wouldn't pass SBA (a breeding requirement in my program), but somehow I had a total of 41 out of 63 foals pass SBA (65%); 19 stallions and 22 mares.

I really don't know if this was down to luck or because my mares have been in the pasture close to 5 months now, but I really hope this success rate continues next month, and for a lot of you guys as well :D

So if anyone would possibly be interested in buying evenly-bred B papered G2 Stallions, please contact me as I need the space.

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Bourbon · Nov 7, 2018 2:07 PM

I've had a rough season and I still need to go through all my fillies D:

66 intact, 408 snipped.

These ones hurt, a LOT.

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I was delighted with these two though!

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NxtLevelGlen · Nov 7, 2018 9:55 PM

Got this little cutie, I love his color:

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dark star · Nov 7, 2018 11:17 PM

Last month I bred 160 of my top mares and studs. I had 10 intact offspring. Most of them studs I gender swapped to mares. Now that I am switching back to Foundations I am feeling a bit overwhelmed by all the intact offspring.

Bandit1119 · Nov 8, 2018 12:08 AM

Foundations are definitely easier to get intact offspring from!

Lallyhop · Nov 8, 2018 3:35 AM

Definitely! For a couple of my lines I've been dealing with too many 2G foals so I SBA everything, cull on genes, and once I get more than a handful the B/reds start going. Keeping only A/blue (of course out of experf/expros) is definitely a fast track to narrowing down numbers.

Rivermoons · Nov 10, 2018 6:45 PM

I saw this and decided to figure out what I got so far. I just have BA so I usually have to be snip happy if I’m going to have any show horses.

Total foals: 64
Stallions: 13
Mares: 27
Geldings: 22
Spayed mares: 5

I’d probably have under 10 geldings if I hadn’t already gone through my stallions.If they aren’t hom DP they get snipped. Unless they slip through my fingers... I think a few did that this year, since the last three months I had less then 5 that escaped intact.

I haven’t gone through my mares yet but I’ll probably have 10 or so I’ll keep for breeding. The rest get sold or snipped.

DevilsParadise · Nov 11, 2018 4:02 AM

I have to disagree with @Cheers about pasture babies not hurting as much. This guy broke my heart

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