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Culling mares
  • This! This is why I have a terrible time culling fillies!

    http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=323237

    She's a gen 3 9.7 PT papered Blue with an AFPT of 11.22!!!

    How do you predict these gems? By rights I should have culled her at birth for a crappy PT...I DID cull her mom for low AFPT. Is there any way you can predict these? Or do I just have to grit my teeth and cull a thousand unbred fillies not knowing who I'm snipping/selling that might be amazing? Grrrr!!!

    Please share your diamonds in the rough who turned out to be exceptional gems, and also your pretty girls who turned out to be duds...if nothing else to commiserate!
  • Never cull a possible breeding horse based on it's birth PT. PT and breeding ability are two completely separate stats, unrelated to each other in any way. I have found strict mare advice is pretty darn solid, couple that with 30 days in the pastures and most mares are solid breeders. You'll get more good mares than duds.

    My mares get 3 foals, then they get culled based on AFPT, less steller mares go to the breed for profit/showing pool. I do cull everything that can't have a foal. All my show horses are intact mares, culled mares or older mares, after I have moved on from breeding that generation. I try to keep my studs numbers under 20. Makes for more manageable numbers.
  • Just think how much harder it would be in real life!!
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  • I am well aware of that fact, Dark Star. But I have nearly 3000 intact horses in my herd, a situation that is far out of control. This month I am doing a major cull because there is no way I can efficiently breed that many. I have 8 year olds that have never been bred because there is no room for them in my pastures. I am not breeding at all this season and have not fully bred my pastures in 3 months because I simply don't have time. If I don't cull enough, I will end up quitting the game in frustration!
  • IF you are really feeling that overwhelmed you may want to consider (and you may already have considered) narrowing your focus. You've got a ton of separate lines, and each line is going to need a couple hundred breedings every months to keep it moving forward at a good clip. Two lines is about all I find manageable, and usually I only have one line going.
  • What is the object of this game. How does a beginner know what lines to go with. What should a beginner mainly focus on at first.
  • This would be my advice:

    1. This game is not a competition, so you should aim to set your own goals and strive to reach them. Please yourself, not the rest of us.

    2. Take time as you are starting to become familiar with the basics of the game--creating horses, visiting the public auction, training and showing the horses you've bought, studying the Breeding Info and How to Use Pastures, asking specific questions about things you aren't clear about.

    3. Do some searches for horses of various colors or patterns to see what's available.

    4. Decide what color or pattern you would like to breed for--flaxen chestnuts, tobiano appaloosas, silver bay splashes, white 2 frames--anything at all that pleases you. You might also decide to breed for light horses (the Araby looking ones), ordinary warmbloods, drafts, horses or ponies. Many people have their favorites. Some, like me, have some of almost everything.

    5. Start building up a collection of neutered horses for your show herd.

    6. Train and show EVERY horse. This is where you will make your money; NOT by breeding to sell.

    7. Have fun doing all of the above. If you find, after playing for a while, that you need or want to refocus your goals, don't be afraid to toss the unwanted horses into the auction and start fresh with horses that reflect your reformed goals.

    8. Most of us try to improve the quality of our horses with every generation. Some players have extremely strict rules for this. Personally, I'm somewhat lax about it--stricter with my stallions than my mares, for sure. The only wrong thing to do is to refuse to follow the simple game rules (which are found at the bottom of the left menu bar), or to try to figure out some exploit by which you can cheat the game. Other than that, there is no one way to play Hunt and Jump.
    De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."

    SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
    also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592
  • I had a 4th gen mare paper red who I rightly should have spayed but because she was one of my first horses with satin I tried to breed it in to some better foals. One of her satin carrier foals papered Gold and went on to produce one of my best lines!!
  • I do have the same problem though Cheers! Too many horses to breed! I have a lot of older mares that will die off without papering. But on the whole as long as I can paper them the culling at some levels is easy. Must be Blue for gen3, and Gold for 5th gen and above. That weeds out a lot at those two generations anyway. But of course I keep all the foals!! I have a new culling strategy now with the bone element come in, I geld/spay loosely anything with bone below 2, and height above 14.3hh. I keep the best from the pastures though. But just doing that at the moment does cut down on my intact fillies

    That mare you spayed, the dam, she was a pretty solid red, all her foals bar the blue mare had PT's over 10, her AFPT was nearly 10.3, so personally I wouldn't have worried about that one 9.7 PT
  • I require my gen 2 mares to AFPT 10.5 unless they have a really unusual color or are from lines I can't access otherwise. I am currently strengthening my targets for gen 3, looking for blues and/or an AFPT of 11.0. Eventually they will have to be both, but I don't have a ton of papered gen 3s yet. I also still use my 3 altered foals and you're out rule when I am looking to cull further, so 3 foals altered by SMA/GA or stallion papering and I cut that mare.
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