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This is the more recent lethality chart, but I think the only changes relate to W10. http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/9115/updated-lethality-chart#Item_1

W20 is not lethal with anything.

Oh, that's right! Thank you Salvistar!

I have a mare with breeding precautions. How do I find out what those precautions are?

That's just my personal tattoo, to remind me to double check before I breed. I forgot to take it off, but it may help. It usually means the horse has one of the White genes or OLW that might cause the foal to not survive. If you post the links I will let you know which genes are lethal. (both those mares you bought have been gene tested)

This is my second mare
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=451287

Thank you very much. I will keep my eye on what studs I match them with.

How do I find out if my horse has Frame genes or not?

Color testing is the only correct way to see if your horse has a lethal gene. Not color testing and registering for Breeder's Clubs is like cheating.

Breeders Clubs for me are to see how good my horses are! They are separated out into Colours and Era's to give more people are chance at showing how good their horses are. Can be a bit of a buzz getting your horse in the top 25, or top 10 of a LB. There used to be only one Leaderboard for stallions and one for mares, although they did go up to 500 horses I think. I like these smaller LB's better, we get awards in the horses records too if they get into the top 10!

The high points parts of the board are based on points earned from the 28th of one month to the 27th of the next.

For the top breeders portions, mares must have a foal that year and must have a certain number of living foals overall (not sure how many but I think it's 3). For stallions they have to have a number of foals that year and again a number of living foals overall. I'm sure someone more experienced can tell us the exact numbers. The horses are then judged based on the quality of their offspring.

Awards are given on the 28th.

So, how do you use the color breeders clubs without "cheating"? Color test every horse? Also, do you all put every horse into clubs, or pick and choose?

So entering only specific horses for color is frowned upon, but entering everyone because you want to and as a bonus finding out color isn't? I just don't want to break rules, but still am missing how to use breeders clubs without "cheating". I was entering all of my horses before this discussion came up to try to get on the leader boards now or in the future...but now I feel guilty entering because you can't help but find out some "secret" color. I mean, some are obvious...I personally wouldn't consider putting an untested Appaloosa or chestnut in the club to be a breach of this unspoken rule, they are what they are (there may be more to them, but you can see at least that from their picture). Do they have to be homozygous to enter a color club? Should I just stay away from the white and frame clubs?

Like Confluence, I make a point to enter all of my horses in the breeders clubs. I also am beginning to try to color test all of my breeding stock (this is an expensive proposition!). But I would mention to you, Phantom, that if you know, for instance, that one of your stallions carries frame, it is easy to make the decision to color test his fillies that you keep but to perhaps not automatically color test the fillies of your plain chestnut stallion. This sort of prioritization is common in the game, particularly with horses that carry a recessive gene like satin, or one that is difficult to tell just from looking at the horse that they have it, like frame on a solid colored horse.

To my knowledge, no one has ever gotten in trouble for using the breeders clubs. It is just wise to be aware that exploiting the breeders clubs is frowned upon, particularly if you are giving advice to another player on how to figure out what color their horse is. The correct answer is always to color test. Failing that, the second best answer is often to look at the horse's parents to try to figure out what color and pattern they might carry, particularly if one or both of them is color tested. New genes cannot randomly appear in foals--they can only be inherited from the parents (or Genetically Modified onto foundations, but that doesn't count for this conversation).

Even those of us that are quite experienced with this game can be surprised by foals sometimes. For instance, Appaloosa does interesting things with dun, and Grullo appys can look quite brown. On top of that, Ammit is constantly updating the art and the algorithms used to generate patterns and shadings. So, when in doubt, color test. But if you can't afford it (or if the horse is going to be a show pony and it doesn't make complete sense), post a picture of the horse and a link to it on the forum and we will give you a hand trying to figure out what the base color and patterns are. And finally, enter everything in the breeders clubs. It's fun to see your ponies on there and if you stick with it, eventually someone will start to get rewards!

Just saw that, too, Cheers.

@Antarctic and @Stunner if you still need help you can continue asking questions here or by making a new thread. The color testing has dropped in price to 100 hbs so it should be much easier for you to afford color testing and finding lethal genes.

Here's a tip to keep your breeding simple until you get better at it: after testing a horse find its lethal genes (frame, Sabino, and white) and put that in her notes. Now when you want to breed her, pick a stallion that is "bland" (a solid color) this way you don't have to worry about loosing a foal. Later on in the game you can start using colorful studs (such as Appaloosas, rabicanos, Splash ect). I am going to PM you with an in depth example of what I mean. I will use my horses as a visual example for you too