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So what do you do with all the altered foals? Do you auction? If so, how do you choose who to keep and who to auction? Basically, I could use the money I'm burning by keeping everyone (right now my constraint is HB and not space), so I'm wondering how people decide who to cull-cull, ie: sell out of their stables.

That's a good point. It just kinda weirds me out because the show horses have to come from somewhere...probably just from someone richer than me! I guess I'll just follow the same PT "rules" I follow for breeding for my show string, and sell off the others. That way I can still level a few home bred ones to be proud of, but not burn so much money on showing every single one.

How does everyone cull their mares? I'm swimming in mares and have no idea how to cull once they get past the testing benchmarks.

Plus how difficult is it to get A papered 3G stallions? I have a ton of B papered ones and thought it was nearly impossible and I suddenly got an A papered one. Now I'm wondering if I should bother with ll the B papered ones. Haha

Nope, fillies too.

I don't keep that many foundations, unless they are something special I want to breed from. I keep almost all my altered foals for show horses. The only ones I yum are the altered gen2's with a PT below 9.9. They are no use for papering as I don't paper foundation mares, and really low PT's won't get me much for the showring.

As for culling lined horses, well I can't be too good at it as I have quite a large herd LOL! But basically I have few requirements. By Gen3 I want stallions to paper A, and mares to paper blue. I'll only keep a B papered gen3 stallion if it has a colour I really want to bring into my herd. Red papered gen3 mares I'll spay, and keep the blue ones intact, but I still keep all the foals. Gen4 is hard to cull, but I can start weeding out a few mares on AFPT. Gen 5 and up need to be Star and Gold papered to stay in the herd. I need to cull hard by then as I have way to many horses!!

I hardly ever cull, sell, auction or yum anything. Even my horses that level off make me points and hbs from showing. My stable supports itself now, because I try to show every horse I have, every week.

I don't leave my mares in the pasture for breeding bonus, (<<I am not sure if that is the correct term,) they are brought out of pasture after they are bred, and put back into showing. <br />
I have done that since I started playing with a very few horses, and just kept building up my show herd. I have a huge herd now.

I don't go by the profit or loss, more just the showing bonuses. That is where I make my money. I earned over 1million hb's weekly bonus from showing last week.

This is going to sound more frustrated than I really am because I know there's always next season, but I'm just trying to get it all out there because maybe you all can guide me (and maybe some other new players) further:

I'm still early game...am I just breeding/playing poorly? I joined in May, this was my first season of gen 3s. I'd say around 2/3 of my foals either get altered by GA/MA/SMA and/or are second and third gen with PTs of less than 10. My 3rd generations were extremely disappointing this year, I got a PT of 9.2 on one of them, and none of them were over 10 (is this disappointing? It seems to be from what I'm reading on the forum, but I really don't know).

I know that the PT cull is not a hard and fast rule, and I'm not culling SMA-passing fillies with PTs above 9 without reason. I was culling colts 9.5 or below during my previous seasons. Almost all my 2g colts were 9.5+, and I couldn't keep all of them, and altering a good looking foal with good breeding potential to be a show horse is just frustrating for me. It's so hard to turn down auctioning altered foals off. I could sit and wait for "years" for them to get points to factor into my show bonus, or be like, "It's my money and I need it now" at the auction.

I have no idea what is good in terms of points for age either, so I am having a hard time telling duds from quality - all of my point values are so low, there's discrepancies between my group of like-year olds, but usually only by 20-odd points at the most. Is that a lot when it comes to single digit aged horses? Should I use some of my high alter rate foundation mares that I want to cull to purpose breed uneven show lines instead?

I just blow through funds in the breeding season, get distracted by cool herd helpers in week 3, and am finally at the point of recovery when the next season hits! I will admit I just put most of my cull auction money to IVs which probably wasn't brilliant, but if something cool that's IV only comes out in September and only September, I want a piece. Mainly because as a player who joined in May, the special HH in June really killed me and I sold almost everything I had to get all 5 of them. I don't want that to happen again, so now I have IVs and enough $ for a few new creates and to sustain my show week.
Every month I have so many regrets in either what I did, what I got rid of, or how I recorded items because I'm still figuring out how to play. My August regret is culling most of my "show herd", even though they weren't very good (most PT around 9.4, I kept anything 9.9 or above).

I guess I'm seeking further advice. How do you balance showing and breeding in early game? To try to answer Ammit (like a pawn to royalty), I don't want to be breeding to throw most of them away, but it at least seems as though I can't afford to keep every sub-par "show horse" at the moment, and am struggling to define who is worth keeping. Should I cull down my breeding herd to make it smaller and easier to get by in terms of $$ in breeding season? I would love to keep everything, and right now I technically have the space, just not the funds...I know I need to show to breed, but my show string as of now (I guess we'll say as of a week ago when I actually had a show string) isn't enough to support pasture breeding + testing.

What are you breeding for?

I am not really sure what I'm breeding for. If I had to say now, I'd say breeding ability and color, since I love my June special HH mares? Also if I'm committed to breeding to sell later on, people in the game seem attracted to chrome, no matter how much it would sometimes help us not to be. Due to the way my lines are right now and how I picked HH as I learned more and more about the game, I'd say I have a focus or I'd like to focus more on rabicano, splash, and paint (right now it's a lotta chestnuts too haha). Not sure if that's too many. I figure if I can get good breeders, I will get around 1/2 and 1/2 good breeders and good showers (those who can't breed, show). You're always going to get some duds, and that's ok.

I almost wish this game split into breeding and showing - ie: designating yourself as a breeding farm and maybe getting a breeding bonus each week (sacrifice your weekly show bonus and get a weekly breeding bonus instead - wouldn't work as well on HJ1 though I don't think), or keeping yourself as a show barn the way it seems to be now. It's not that I dislike the showing aspect of the game, I am just much more interested in the breeding and genetics, but it's unsustainable early game without a good show herd.

I just went through what I call the 'pixel pony post partum depression', too. I have to remind myself that part of the reason I get the 5-10 cool foals a year is that I breed 150+ foals a year. That's part of why the bigger barns get the really cool foals. (Cheers, how many foals did you get so far this year?) So don't feel too bad!

We can look over your herd and give you some advice if you like.

Also, when I asked about what you are breeding for, I mostly meant colors. Generally people decide they want a certain color (for me it is S+ and black chestnut) and focus on developing a herd of quality horses with those colors and decent PT scores. That doesn't mean I don't breed for other colors, but my GP and KP barns only have 30 stalls, and the rest of my 650 stalls are dedicated to my chestnuts.

Showing alone is not the focus of this game, in my opinion. But the struggle to get cool colors that CAN show as well, IS.

ETA: WHG used to have a much stronger focus on showing. You had to manage which classes your horse entered, and at what level, a VERY different approach. It took a lot of the focus off the color genetics, which is the whole point of HJ.

My problem with the mares is I don't have the funds nor the space to paper all the mares to help me cull. Haha. I've been diligently buying at least one IV a week. I was planning on getting another barn and repeating that process, but now the whole rank special thing in September UGH. Lol. I've been showing all my horses and doing less breeding. Really only breeding the "special" ones or the ones that might passover soon.

You do not need to use mare papering. Look at her foal Pts and you will have a good idea of what she is doing.

If you are scrimping for barns you will not be able to afford anything at the cash capping event. It's for members with over 10 mill in the bank.

The cheapest IV pasture is 80 IVs. The event is a made to remove money out of the game for players that have been here for years. There will some things going on like HHs but for the most part this is a special thing just for those members who have supported us for years.


I promise you you do not have a net negative gain from showing. Maybe just straight profit but that number is show entries and payout only. It's random. You earn 251 hbs a day in show bonus. There is no possible way you are losing that much a day from show profits.

That one is harder for me to answer, because I don't have a formula. Honestly, there is usually a point where I just feel I've given a horse every chance. As the years have gone by I've noticed that I've become a lot less forgiving. Sometimes, with a mare , it's after 3 foals, sometimes it just one or two.

If you had even suggested I give up one of my Sunshine Superman mares on WHG I would have been horrified! Now it's kind of "meh".

Exactly, Cheers!

If a brood mare papers lower than her dam or has an AFPT only minimally above that of her dam and has a very low PT (less than 8.0, definitely) I will neuter her and auction her. If she has a fairly good PT, definitely 9.5 or above, I will neuter her and toss her into the show herd.

I have gone through all my horses, and their PT is between 9 and 10. Is this good or bad news for showing and or breeding?

It helps me a little bit.
What I am asking is : the higher the PT per the horse's gen is better?

Thank you, I was getting confused that the lower PT was better.