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- Abbey Road November 2014
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Trying to breed golden-looking foals
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I recently got a Buckskin Pearl Dun Sabino Splash Frame Varnish Appaloosa mare with a nice golden coat. This one:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=110558
What do I have to look for in stallions genetics so I get more golden-looking foals? -
Its a bug it won't be staying. The wrong version of pearl got uploaded
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What kind of coat do I have to look for for that golden look in a horse?
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They will still be golden just not nearly so metallic is all. Palomino is also gold and a lot easier to get. :)
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It's Pearl + Cream that makes that. I have quite a few colts that have it (though, as Ammit says, it'll be changing). What generation are you breeding?
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Looks like you've got Satin on that girl too :)
If you breed her to another pearl you may get something that looks more like this stallion of mine, if it ends up homozygous:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=118901
If you were to breed your mare to him, you've got a 50% chance of getting the pearly gold, but also a 25% chance of satin. Caveat, right now the pearly gold or any double cream gene seems to hide the satin.
(This is what Satin looks like; it's only visible if the horse carries 2 satin (sa) genes):
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=30206
If you'd like to breed to Queensland Star let me know and I'll put him up for public stud for you, temporarily, for 2000 hb.
If you breed her to another cream/pearl (CprlCcr), you have 25% chance of cremello or perlino, 25% chance of the homozygous pearl like Queensland Star, and 50% chance of gold similar to hers.
Looks like these two 3rd gen boys would fit, if that's what you're looking for.
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=100864
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=100100
Hope that helps and wasn't a bunch of stuff you already knew. :) -
You were very helpful, thank you.
But why would Ammit give us these pictures if they were a bug? There must be a non-buggy way of getting that look, since all horses here look hand-painted. -
They are all generated using thousands and thousands of lines of code :)
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Comme on Ammit, there IS a non-buggy way of generating this kind of coat. Tell us, please ;;)
By the way, is this one bugged too?
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Nope that horse is a perlino
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Not sure what about the coat you like. Like I said palominos are golden.
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But palominos have flaxen manes.
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To get the best bet, you probably will have is a non sooty palomino (more common), but it will not have the "shine" to look like the gold color you are seeing, otherwise there is also non sooty gold Champagnes, which will sort of have a shine, from the Champagne. If looking for a darker maned horse, try breeding for either a non sooty Buckskin Dun, or you can try to breed what is called a Buttermilk Buckskin, one of the new Bay genes, that with a cream gene gives the horse a more lighter coat, more "butter" colored.
Non sooty Palomino :
Flaxen Gold Champagne Non Sooty:
Non Sooty Buckskin Dun:
Non Sooty Buttermilk Buckskin:
EE A+A CCcr dd gg FF SS Pp zz chch SaSa | KittoKitto SpSp VV LL rbrb OO IiIi WF: Light PATN: Medium
The Buttermilk Buckskin is probably the closest to what you want. To get one you have to have the new bay gene A+ and a creme gene, like the one I show under its picture. It must be black based (E?) have the A+ bay gene, and cream (Ccr). -
Sounds like you may want gold champagne or gold champagne with pearl.
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Actually, gold champagne pearl seems pretty close. What would be the genetics for it?
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The critical genes needed to get gold champagne pearl are in bold (everything else was just copied from a random color test):
ee Aa CprlCprl dd gg fF SS Pp zz Chch SaSa | KitKit SpSp VV LL rbrb OO IiIi
Since you are looking for that specific shade, you probably want SS (recessive sooty) and either FF or Ff (non-flaxen) as well.I was jllewis on the old forum.
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This seems like the perfect shade of gold champagne pearl.
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Yes, but it has the same problem that you have with the first one you posted. The Pearl gene is the incorrect one, so gives the more "golden" color.
The one Ammit posted above is more of the color that is correct for pearl. -
So there are no truly golden horses in this game?
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I think that what you are actually looking for is the "golden shine" that the wrong pearl gene puts on the horses, because there are quite a few gold colored horses in the game, but then there are different shades of gold (as shown above in previous posts).
Here is another type of gold horse. Its a non sooty cremello, with champagne gene.
ee AA CcrCcr dd gg ff SS pp zz ChCh SaSa | KitKit SpSp VV LL rbrb OO IiIi WF: Large PATN: Minimal
Or this one is a gold champagne with a cream gene.
ee AA CCcr dd gg ff SS PP zz ChCh SaSa | KitKit SpSp VrnV LL rbrb OO IiIi WF: None PATN: Light
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He's got a nice golden color. I see that he is also heterozygous champagne and heterozygous sooty. That combination of homozygous cream, heterozygous champagne, and heterozygous sooty is what is giving him that rich gold.
The sabino isn't showing much, even with his medium white factor. The main indication of that is the slightly ragged borders on the socks on his forelegs, which you have to look very closely to see. Sabino, which is a mutation of the Kit gene, will add white to the coat, but it will have no effect on the base color.
It looks to me like a good choice for your preferred color, especially without homozygous recessive flaxen. It will also be a lot easier to collect, since cream and champagne are fairly common in the game. Pearl is quite rare and can be expensive. To the best of my knowledge, pearl foundations could only be created in the University Lab, and that is currently down until it can be revised to fit into the current game state better.
De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
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SandyCreek: Nope, pearl is in the GMT lab. I have a bunch of foundies with pearl :)
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Thanks for the correction, Maribo. I hadn't realized that, since pearl isn't one of the genes I'm particularly interested in.
Royal Endeavor, my daughter says that the sooty doesn't have as much to do with that lovely color as the champagne. So perlino champagnes may be what you're looking for.De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
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By bad luck, my perlino mare got spayed during testing, and there are not perlinos for sale. It seems I will have a bad time finding some to start a line.
But anywhays, there is not too late to learn... what are the genetics I'm looking for to produce perlino champagnes? -
Perlino champagne would need to be E* A* CrCr Ch* = must be homozygous cream, and atleast heterozygous black, agouti and champagne. To be true breeding, it must be EE AA CrCr ChCh.