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Anyone else get discouraged?
  • Anyone else want to just alter all overstock foals? Esp studs? I hate to do it because they are testing superior to sire and great boys. Esp in my fantasy lines. But they have been hard to market. And if you do market people don't always use to better the breed. So I have found myself altering some really nice mares and studs.
    And I don't even really look at any lines horses to buy. As most are not up to my standards. For this reason I kinda wish that the private auction was back with stipulations.
  • How did the private auction work? I joined after it was axed
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And Silver Blue Pearls
    Focusing on Sooty Plus, Sb2, W3 and W10
  • It was supposed to be only the cream of crop allowed in. You had to nominate a horse in the head to be accepted. But there was a lot of people putting horses in that weren't really that great genetics. The thing that was nice is that you could put a reserve on them so if you wanted him to bring at least 5000 it wouldn't go unless it hit the 5000. So it would have been really nice for some of these fantasy or bettwr quality horses.
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  • I don’t normally snip mares that pass my requirements for staying intact but I am super harsh with my boys and I don’t keep a ton intact (don’t look at my barns right now! Lmao I haven’t culled them this summer.)

    I feel the same way with outside horses. I think ooh that’s pretty and I’d love to add that gene to my herd then later if I buy it I accidentally snip it when testing my foals or go to cull it because it’s below the paper requirements for that generation.
  • Yep I snip a lot because I just don’t need them and don’t want them going to auction and being picked up by someone who may not breed them for quality wise. So most always get snipped before I put them in auction :/
    Breeding liver chestnut drafts that carry snowflake and kp.
    Also breeder of mushroom, watercolour, chinchilla, splash m, wrong warp and thunderstruck.

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  • Yep so many of my boys get snipped and auctioned or sold back if theyre fantasy genes and nothing too special show pony wise. But even then I still have too many boys lol. I only try sell the nicest that I know I wont use. Almost all of the girls that paper properly and pass sba get to stay though lol.
  • I might do that this season, as my foals are just not saleable anymore, I just ran a forum auction for an 3g A papers het nexus het satin, het KP consistent colt foal and I got the grand total of 1 bid which is super disheartening, I think it doesn't help I breed riding ponies instead of warmbloods and drafts, I think at this rate I'll just snip everything that isn't going to be used to breed and try to get the money together to keep buying barns.
    21170 ~ Breeder of quality Liver Chestnut and Chocolate Palomino riding horses and ponies with unique twists. Specializing in Kit Promoter with fancy white patterns.
    Coming soon ~ Snowflake, Nexus and Ice5
  • I have been auctioning most of my colts. And many fillies also. I have had an awful season this year. and I am not happy with many of my 2 gens or 3 gens. Next season I may not breed my foundations, this year really sucked. @NorthernStars did you ever sell that 3 gen. I may want him.
  • I do still have him, and I'll let you have him as I'm going to turn as many of my foals as I can bare to into show ponies. I've had a bad year with Pumpkin Child most foals were Red or B which is disappointing but even the good ones there seems to be no market for anything but closed genes and snowflake atm.
    21170 ~ Breeder of quality Liver Chestnut and Chocolate Palomino riding horses and ponies with unique twists. Specializing in Kit Promoter with fancy white patterns.
    Coming soon ~ Snowflake, Nexus and Ice5
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  • @ NorthernStarsNorthernStars I will take him. I will give you 15k. Can you put him up in my chat? I will get him later on when I wake up. I'll add you to my chat.
  • @ NorthernStarsNorthernStars You are already in my chat.
  • @ NorthernStars Got him. Thanks
  • No problem, I'm about to get my scissors out and be brutal with my breeding stock so he probably would have been fielded if he stayed.
    21170 ~ Breeder of quality Liver Chestnut and Chocolate Palomino riding horses and ponies with unique twists. Specializing in Kit Promoter with fancy white patterns.
    Coming soon ~ Snowflake, Nexus and Ice5
  • The market would be far better if more people snipped far more horses. Everyone has breeding stock to sell and more keepers then they know what to do with, so why would they buy from others?
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  • @NorthernStars I buy your sale horses frequently and picked up a few fillies from you over the weekend that were on the public sales list. Unfortunately I don't own any closed genes so that keeps me from buying alot that I would and I think there's alot of other players in that same situation...people that already own licenses are breeding their own stock and don't have much need for other's "rejects". One thing I have noticed is that if you can manage to hold onto some of the "good" ones until they are breeding age (or just before) that does seem to increase their market ability and likelihood of selling. Stallions will always be harderto sell and het genes don't seem to matter as much with them as with mares.
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And Silver Blue Pearls
    Focusing on Sooty Plus, Sb2, W3 and W10
  • But rejects to one person may not be to another. Some foals are rejected because of such things as color, or needed barn space.
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  • @Xceptional I agree as i built my entire breeding stock when i started the game using rejects on the sales list because i was far too impatient to start from scratch with foundies. I'm particularly noting that alot of us out here can't buy anything with closed genes but would like to therefore many will go to waste.
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And Silver Blue Pearls
    Focusing on Sooty Plus, Sb2, W3 and W10
  • But certain Ice genes and Nexus genes are not closed. I also built my stock off of many of DivineDreams stock. And I know she wasn't selling me her rejects. I still buy her horses to this day. And Also RoseFlute. I have foals up for sale now with 10 and over Pt. But I do not have the barn room. They are not my rejects I just need the room.
  • @duelinghawks I know you have bought some of my foals and I am incredibly grateful for that, but in general over the last few seasons I've been finding it a lot hard to sell my foals, if my foals aren't good enough to breed they get spleded I don't sell the rubbish ones. But I doing a mass geld and spay as I need to revamp my breeding barns a bit.
    21170 ~ Breeder of quality Liver Chestnut and Chocolate Palomino riding horses and ponies with unique twists. Specializing in Kit Promoter with fancy white patterns.
    Coming soon ~ Snowflake, Nexus and Ice5
  • Also keep in mind the market fluctuates. We just had closed genes and snowflake on sale, and a lot of people got them! Especially with fillies/mares, they’re selling pretty well, but the colts/snipped you can’t hardly give away because /everyone/ has excess.

    Less than a month before the watercolor sale, though, any time a snipped watercolor foal went up in the closed gene chat sales, it was snatched up within hours - mostly because it had probably been a while before the previous sale, and there weren’t nearly as many being offered. There was also a huge run on dp/liver at that point in time, and anything labeled “dp” had way more interest than it does right now.

    It’s basic supply and demand around here - and if you have the patience to wait a few months, or even a few weeks sometimes, you can watch the market shift to whatever is the latest “fad” (and hopefully you have some of whatever it is that you can profit off of :)) )

    For the here and now, though, I’d probably say snip most of your excess aside from one or two horses that you really, really can’t bear to see snipped. (*says the person who is still in the process of culling and hasn’t gotten that far*) So far, the easiest mantra I’ve been finding to follow is “I can breed a better one next year. I can breed a better one next year. I can, at the very least, find another one if I ever really need this exact set of genes.”

    And if it’s “just too pretty to snip” but not a great breeder, snip it and keep it forever in your show barns in a place of honor! We all (me included) get bad about thinking that a snip means it’s “gone”, to some extent, but we forget that snipping does absolutely nothing to the appearance of the horse and we can go and show it off in the show ring and wow everybody with its beauty there. :D
    ISO any and all Silver Pocket Watches!

    God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
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  • Makes me wish for a alter all button so bad. Esp an alter all in barn. Or alter all in auction:)
  • Oh gosh, you know how many people would accidentally click that, no matter how many warnings were slapped across it? Don’t give us that sort of power! =))
    ISO any and all Silver Pocket Watches!

    God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
  • I've shoved a lot of colts in auction that I would have liked to keep, but just didn't have the space! I had the Colt Fairy visit me this season and got just... so many colts.

    Honestly I would have liked to just snip and keep them all, but, barn space ya know! I kept a few extra pretty ones with good PT scores, but that's it. Shoving them in auction will help me pay for new barns.

    I've also decided that some most of my foundies are getting bred once more next season and then snipped and shipped to the show barn. I'm getting enough lined stock now I can do that.
  • I know I thought of that. It's just bc I have so many. And I spend so much on gmt I hate to send to auction and have studs fall in wrong hands. I have almost 400 studs to go through right now
  • Bright star. Send me a pm. I have something for you:)
  • It’s a tight market out there, especially for colts. I offer a handful for sale every season, that comp where I want them to for that gen, and I snip probably a third of them when they don’t sell. I’m also at a point where I’m culling lower papers from my pastures, so I’m moving a lot of mares either through the auction or snipping and shoving in a show barn. I will pick up a few horses I just can’t stand not to have, but I’m one of the bigger barns here and don’t really shop for stock often.

    I try to be really really tight on stallion numbers at all times, but I think I have some hiding somewhere! If I can get finished culling foals I’ll be going hunting with a set of triple crunch emasculators!
  • @Cheers I've just done that today, I went from having 3 pages of boys to what will be less than a full page after the auction, I only have one boy up for public sale now, but if he doesn't sell I'll keep him as I used him for a change this season and he didn't do too badly. I've got my line mares down from 8 pages to 5 and I'm sure it'll sky rocket again if I ever manage to get my new stallion finished.
    21170 ~ Breeder of quality Liver Chestnut and Chocolate Palomino riding horses and ponies with unique twists. Specializing in Kit Promoter with fancy white patterns.
    Coming soon ~ Snowflake, Nexus and Ice5
  • I snip very excessively, both fillies and colts, along with older breeding mares and stallions who I just don't breed anymore. I've actually got a tonne of snipped RS since I don't want to give up their points and I don't want to breed them anymore. I think I was talking about it in one of the buddies recently that I went on a snipping spree, I cut my numbers down dramatically. I've got a very tiny GMT list of horses (8 total!) who I want to make consistent which is the only thing holding them out of my lines at the moment. Usually if they're incon, they'll be snipped. Wrong colour, missed a gene, wrong paper, or having too many similar ones from that pasture is enough for me to snip them.

    I very rarely sell out breedable stock and I've hardly ever listed my horses for actual auctions. Occasionally if I get a horse whom I'm not going to use but is up to snuff and has very desirable gene's I'll do a forum auction. Rather guttingly I had a lovely snowflake stallion last season who would have been an awesome edition to someones lines but since no one bidded on him I just gelded him. Lately there's been so little interest in the ones I am offering out lately, I'm wondering if there's just too many on the market these days.
    #4519
  • I love love loved the Summer festival and Sales, but I think because of them a lot of people are particularly tight on cash/room. I know I started the summer planning some major culling of foundation pastures/lines and instead ended up significantly expanding my foundation lines and adding a ton more stallions.

    I think the summer festival was different from the winter one because at winter we are all doing Secret Santa and there’s a very brisk sales/gift market as well as so many new horses flooding in. It changes the nature of the game a little for that month!

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