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- Amour33 July 2018
- Cheers July 2018
- DejaRea July 2018
- KaliIm July 2018
- kintara July 2018
- Lallyhop July 2018
- SandycreekFarm July 2018
- Xceptional July 2018
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Stupid Question
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I am going to cull some of my mares by AFPT. What is the lowest score I should settle for?
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What is the lowest you cull mares for now? Like only ExPro below nine get to stay as a general rule of thumb on my accounts, so I'd drop anything that wasn't like 9.6 if I was narrowing down my stock.This account inspired by Cherry Drops.
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Im with DejaRea on that one. Unless its only there to add a few genes on the lines I'm breeding based on color (easily replaced colors still get culled below 9.60) that's the same standard I use for now. As my lines increase in quality I'll boost that up to 9.70 and so on. The only horses that get exempt are my RS creates and when I can anything that I'll eventually GMT. Hope this helps a bit.
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I am talking about AFPT. Not PT.
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I would still use 9.5 or 9.6 as the minimum with AFPT as for PT. If a mare is throwing foals with low enough PT to drop her foal average down below that I wouldn't use her when trying to better a line. Unless you rarely breed below a blue or A foal then I would raise the standard for culling.
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I never breed below an A or blue. In fact soem of my second gens are blue
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I would just start by culling the ones with the lowest AFPT, and just keep going until you think you have culled enough mares!Thanked by 1Lallyhop
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Thank you!
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BTW There are no stupid questions about this complex game.De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
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Thank you!
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I think @Cheers has a table for culling by AFPT as a rough guide :)
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I'm with @Kintara on this one. A lot of the culling options people use are because they have too many intact horses of a particular gender/generation/gene/whatever. Start by figuring out how many you want, then cull the worst and slowly work your way up. You may even find yourself letting a mare with slightly lower AFPT slide because she has a particular gene you love, or culling a relatively higher AFPT because she doesn't have quite the right bone/height, etc etc.
On my pony alt account, I breed for height, so instead of culling by AFPT I cull by average foal height! However, if two mares were throwing the same size foals and one had a lower AFPT, then I'd cull the one with lower - assuming I was still looking for ways to get rid of mares.
Culling is to lower the numbers of intact horses you're dealing with. When you decide you have too many, that's when you set your own standard for how to efficiently keep to the number you want. Some people don't mind their herd going smaller than their "this is too big" number, and so they'll set a higher cutoff, and others want to have a larger base stock so they'll set their cutoff lower, or even not have a cutoff but cull a few here and there.
In my bootstrap herd, I still have a number that's manageable when culling by paper. As time goes on, I'll start culling that one by AFPT too. In the meantime, however, I use paper levels. In the end, it all depends on how many mares you want to end up with.ISO any and all Silver Pocket Watches!
God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.Thanked by 1kintara -
I got my table based on culling the lowest I think it was 20% from my pastures by generation. Mostly what I’m looking to do is have enough room to move in replacement mares.
In general, Ammit has said that a jump of 0.5points of PT per generation is a good goal. I personally pick a number and stick to it for my entire herd at that level (so all my foundations need to hit a certain AFPT regardless of whether they’re ExPerf or normal create, regardless of whether they’ve got a PT of 0.6 or 10.4). I know some people require 0.5 above each individual mare’s PT but that requires more thinking than I can give to my big herd!
I think you should start by seeing what your AFPTs are in a given herd (remember that if you have the premium upgrade, you have to open each mare’s page to update her AFPT after each foal is born and tested) and then plan to cull sort of 10-30% off the bottom depending on your needs. That will help you set an AFPT for yourself. Remember to compare apples to apples—similar quality of stallion, same amount of pasture bonus, minimum of 3 foals documented—for your mares so you’re not unfairly culling mares with no pasture bonus against mares with multiple foals at full pasture bonus for instance.
Like others have mentioned, I have a few mares hanging around with AFPTs lower than my cut off, usually because I can’t get another mare with their bloodlines or they have genes I’m trying to get into my herd. While the mare may be allowed to hang around her foals are culled to the same standards as all my others so basically I’m hoping to get lucky with something that stays intact even though I know she’s not really up to quality.
Some players will cull every intact foal of a mare that they cull for low AFPT. I don’t. I have had some mares throw a single outstanding foal amid several dismal ones, I have had others where it doesn’t take long at all for me to cull a mare’s entire line. I choose to not pre-empt that decision but it can be another way to cull out excess stock if you’re drowning in it! -
I will privately provide my table to anyone who asks, but I think it’s important to remember there is no wrong way to breed or cull here. You shouldn’t try to hold yourself to someone else’s standards, especially if you find it causes you stress! It’s a game! It should be fun!
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I second what Cheers said about culling foals from mares that aren't so good, I don't either. Each generation has it's own standards, and if the foal/s has already passed it was probably good enough. Some sub-par mares have actually given me some good foals if breed often enough to good stallions and when in the pasture!