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Bay allele dominance?
  • I love black based horses. But I am trying to figure out the dominance of the agouti alleles: A, A+, At, and a. Will AAt look the same as AA or AA+? His about At VS A+?
  • a is Black
    A is Bay
    At is Brown which has dominance over A
    A+ is Wild bay which has dominance over A and At

    So if you want guaranteed black horses you would breed EE aa studs to EE aa or Ee as mares :)
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  • Actually the heirarchy goes:
    Wild bay (A+)
    Bay (A)
    Brown (At)
    Black (a)

    But yes, when you’re breeding for a particular one you just want to make sure there’s none of a more dominant gene in your lines - so for black, you have to breed aa, while for bay, you can breed any A combo (Aa, AAt, AA) as long as you don’t have A+, and for wild bay as long as you have a copy of A+ you’re golden.

    Here’s the genetics guide pge for it, which you can access by clicking on the A in the horse’s genes on their page.
    http://www.huntandjump.com/geneticsguide/?page_id=48
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  • Thanks much! Just to be difficult, I have decided to have 2 lines, At and A+. I'll try not to mix them, but understanding which is dominant.
  • The introduction of Cherry Drops sparked my interest in A+ bays!
  • As for how the horse's look:

    A+ / (A+, A, At or a) = wild bay, all combinations look the same
    A / (A, At or a) = regular bay, all combinations look the same
    At / At = bay/brown - looks like & labeled bay if no darkening genes, looks like & labeled brown if darkening genes
    At / a = brown
    a / a = black
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