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Breeding Question
  • Hi all,
    I'm very new to this game and was wondering if there's any specific formula for breeding? Like does it matter how far along the parents are in their showing careers when you breed them? I have a few horses I want to pair together but I have no idea if I should wait or what. How do I get the best possible outcome when breeding?
  • The main thing is mares have to be 4 years or older to breed, and stallions 3 years old. After that it depends what your breeding goals are as to whether you breed high PT show horses or focus on colour or height or increasing paper levels as you go up the generations.
    To get better foals you can leave mares in the pasture for a certain number of days before breeding, but I don't know the specifics as I'm impatient and always end up breeding as soon as I can haha.
    I've only been playing for a couple of months myself so I'm sure some of the older players will be able to help you out a bit more :)
    Thanked by 1Woodroffe
  • Breeding and showing are fairly separate.

    Some people leave their mares in the pastures for their entire breeding career for maximum breeding benefits without pulling them out to show. Others (like myself) leave them in for a while to get some of the benefits and rotate groups while showing them inbetween. Others toss them in and breed them and pull them out
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  • One thing is to show, show, show. You can do it twice a week and do it every week. That's where most of your money is going to come from. The longer a mare is in pasture the better the chance of an intact foal. Some people breed evenly by paper level. Meaning A papered studs to blue papered mares, B papered studs to Red mares, c papered studs to yellow mares. Others breed even generations such as 2 gen mares to 2 gen studs. Others myself included breed both even generations and even papers. But in the end it is all up to you. There are no set rules. So just have fun!
  • Thank you so much for the replies! I think I'm starting to get it, but I'm still a bit confused. I don't have access to papering, so does it matter if I keep my mares in the pasture and not show them? I'm going to be showing my stallions, geldings, and spayed mares, but if I don't show my breeding mares, will it negatively impact the foal or does it not matter?
  • breeding and showing arent really related. you could have a mare with an awful PT score (eg 4.20) but be an excellent producer of foals. the main reason people say to show horses is because the show bonus is what will earn you money. if youre relatively new, i would suggest keeping your mares in the pasture for about a week pasture bonus and then pull them out after so that they can still show weekly until you can build up your show herd enough to be able to leave the mares in pasture permanently.

    from what i have learned over playing:
    - a horse with a high pt will go far in showing (especially if gelding or spayed-mare).
    -if your mare is not shown, it will not affect the offspring quality nor affect their chance of passing ba
    -the higher the pasture bonus the higher the chance of getting more intact
    -if you dont have papering i would suggest breeding evenly for now and any that dont pass BA, werent a good quality and wont have papered well
    -papering indicates how good the horse is breeding wise, although BA does a good job of that aswell
    - PT is how good your horse will be for showing, eg a horse with a pt of 11.00 will be able to train longer and go higher in showing thst a horse will say a pt 9.50. i think it is that when the horses age and pt reach the same then the horse will level off (cant train anymore)

    hope this helps :)
    Thanked by 1Woodroffe
  • Thank you so much, that helps a lot. :)
  • no problem, if you ever need help with anything just pm me and i will try my best ot help :)
  • PT doesn’t tell you how good a horse is at showing. It tells you how long and quickly a horse will train.

    There are horses with low PT’s rocking the show pen bringing in the points and high PT horses that can’t place well to save their life.

    When you are starting out you should have a wide range of PTs.

    The lower PT’s train slower and tend to take their time moving up the levels and earn points along the way because they have time to place in a better spot before leveling off.

    The higher PT’s train faster and sort of rocket up the levels and unless they are lucky may not place very well before leveling up into a higher level but once they level off and find their groove they compete in larger classss and earn more points per show and make up for not picking up many points along the way.

    If you have a range of PT’s the lower pt horses cover for the higher pt horses until they find their spot.

    When horses level off they still continue to train they just don’t add the same amount to their show score as before they level off. Eventually they earn less than a point a training session.
  • Here's a bit more of an explanation about the pasture bonus and a few other things.

    When you leave a mare in the pasture, she has a better chance of producing better foals. For each day, up to day 30, that chance of a better foal increases by a little bit. So a mare who has been in pasture at least 30 days will have a better chance of producing a better foal than a mare who has been in the pasture for only 10 days.

    "Better" when applied to the foals affects both the foal's breeding ability and its showing ability.

    However, there are no guaranteed results. A bunch of mares who have been in the pasture for 30 days will still produce some foals that will be neutered by Breeding Advice. Some of them may produce a foal with a lower PT score than others.

    There is always a range of possible results from any breeding. This is part of what makes the game fun, although in individual cases when a special pair of parents produces a gorgeous foal with all the genes you'd hoped for and the foal gets neutered, it can also be very frustrating. When that happens, we sigh a bit, maybe cry, too, then remind ourselves that there's always next breeding season to try again. :)

    When a horse reaches the age of 18, there will be a chance that it will age out of the game, but for horses that pass that milestone, they can safely be bred until they turn 20. Horses that live beyond that 20th year can continue to be shown, just not bred even if they're intact.
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  • Before papering changed to be available at birth we used to have to breed a mare 3 times before being able to paper. Some people would just calculate the average PT of the foals and breed to a stud with a similar AFPT (average foal PT) rather than papering the mare
  • @Bandit1119, i never realised that pt wasn't to determine good quality show stock. thank you for that! :)
  • It does determine quality a bit but I think it may show the parents quality more than the foals.

    To improve the quality within a line you can compare the dams AFPT against her own to see if she is throwing the same or better quality than her (if the average is at or higher than her pt) if it’s lower she may have had some bad rolls or inconsistent foals or is not improving her line very well.

    -bandit1119 ( forgot I was on my secondary)

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