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With grays it is almost impossible to tell.

I think Color was trying to tell you to test her with a liver stud...

She's actually quite dark under the grey which is a bit unusual for a chestnut horse. Maybe a dark chestnut, potentially a liver? Defo find a stud who compliments without the grey to find out. Had a stud a while back who was a very dark liver foal with a little clouding of grey, pretty much threw all liver foals.

Nope that looks like totally normal chestnut going grey.

I'm not going to tell you what to do. Instead I'll give you questions to ask yourself as you look carefully at this pairing. This will give you practice at evaluating horses for breeding purposes. *G*

1. What kind of foal am I looking to get out of this match-up? Color? Intact or Show pony? Specific Body Type? Consistency?
2. What generation is the mare, and what is her Paper Level, if known? (As an ordinary create, she's most likely Yellow papered.)
3. What generation is the stallion and what is his Paper Level, if known?
4. Given the answers to the questions above, does it seem likely that they will give me the foal that I'm hoping for?
5. If not, am I willing to gamble that they might produce a foal that I'd like to keep for any reason?

I know how I would answer questions 2, 3, and 4, and what I'd probably decide, but I hope that you will be able to use the questions to make your own decision based on how you want to play this game.

Feel free to PM me to discuss it, if you'd like. I'm pretty busy this week, but I'll do my best to keep track of things so you aren't left hanging in limbo waiting for me to check for a conversation.

Ugh, autocorrect.

The questions Sandy added are very good questions. They helped me a lot when I first started and still bred horses by hand.

Generally speaking you don't want to breed horses that aren't in the same paper level. (C to yellow, b to red, A to blue, star to blue/gold, ect)
Ammit said that your mare looked like a regular chestnut. So chances are that is exactly what she is.

Thanks helps alot

So, I just want to weigh in here a little as well.

While Sandy’s questions and ColorGood and FallenShadow’s points are all helpful in making overall breeding decisions as far as the goal and direction of your herd, none of them necessarily help you answer your original question.

The way I read it, your question was “Does this mare carry DP? And how can I prove it?”

Now, I think in this particular case that we can all take Ammits observation that she just looks like a normal chestnut Gray at face value. She is the game goddess after all. But if you honestly believed the mare has DP, what would be your best way to find out?

So, she’s het sooty, which means she’s going to have a hard time throwing a Liver even without the complicating factor of the Gray. And breeding her to a regular het DP liver stallion doesn’t really help you prove anything, because if she throws a homozygous Ssty liver, where is the DP coming from? You know the stallion has DP, so you have to assume it’s coming from him.

So for my book, I would be breeding her to a homozygous DP homozygous Ssty “Black” Liver (like a Liver Freaky Friday). You’d get your 50% chance of gray, but every single foal would carry DP. If you got a Het Sooty (SstyS) Liver, you know she carries DP. If you got a black liver, you know she carries DP. They’re small chances, but I personally think they would be your best chance.

If she was a stallion, I would collect a herd of 30 or so homozygous sooty chestnut mares with no DP and put the questionable stallion over all of them. If you get any livers, you know the stallion carries DP.

I hope that helps you understand how to start to investigate these questions. The color genetics in the game can become super complex sometimes and sorting through to figure out the different effects of trying to figure out what a horse might be carrying silently can be very challenging at times!

@Cheers does this guy fit what you where say for a Freaky Friday?


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