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Foundations created by small barns are now created WITH POINTS
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A big theme over the last few months has been figuring out how to help new members get their barns off the ground. It was found that there was really three core issues. 1) They did not understand that show horses had value and why they needed to be accumulating points. 2) Even if they did understand this it was nearly impossible to get access to worthwhile show horses. 3) They had no way to earn money other then wait out daily pay, and nothing to offer older players. Waiting is lame.
So here is my solution, and it is going to fundamentally change new member experience and older/new member interaction.
Now if you have less than 20,000 total held points in your account (that's just over a 2k a day bonus) any foundation you create starts with a few hundred points (average of 250, and can rarely get up to 1k points). It also tells you as you create how many points and what they daily pay out for those points will be.
Here is how this addresses the above issues.
1) Both the horse page and the create a horse page is in your face about what a show horse is worth. It is easy to see your barn grow in daily income and that drives home the point that you NEED those show horses.
2) These show horses are earning at MOST 100 hbs a day. Most closer to 25 a day. That isn't a ton but you don't need a ton as a small barn. That extra 60k a month is enough to grow your barn off of and give you a solid footing in the game.
3) It took me 90 horses when creating to hit 20k points. A starting barn has only 55 stalls (with welcome pack). That means the smart thing to do is toss your lower pointed foundations in the auction house. Get your money back on them, and then try for higher pointed creates. It's a good system to keep new players busy AND the side effect is that while a small barn might only want 300+ point horses because they only have room for that, the big barns are gonna be snatching up 200 point yearlings because they know the long run value of them.
Other side effects:
-Makes more sense to create yearlings now if you are under 20k.
-Now small players have something to offer big barns (pointed young horses) and the big barns can offer the rare genes, and high PT pedigreed horses that they have. It levels the playing field between old timers and new when it comes to trade.
-This isn't going to lower the sales price on pointed horses. They already were ignored in the auction. If anything this will drive up attention on them. Going to take some time for the economy to rebalance but I think we will see much more circulation of hbs and that is what you want in a strong economy.
-I am sure the rare 1k yearling will go up for sale and make big money. Awesome! It's like getting an RS. It's a nice cash bonus for a new barn.
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Maybe in a few months when the economy stabilizes to this change we can have another reach for the stars type contest and see how all these changes have shaped the new member experience. :x
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Thanks - great idea :)
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As a newish account that was under 1K daily show bonus, I can say it has *already* made a difference to me in the last 30 minutes. :D Thank you!
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I m gonna have to try it! I am newer and under 1k show bonus and struggling to figure out how to make money!! Thanks for the change!!Watercolor, Chinchilla, Axiom, Nexus, Wrong Warp, Nacre, Ice 5/8, Satin and Pearl
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Do horses with a greater PT "come" with a greater chance of higher points, or is it completely random?
Really cool idea! I'm excited to see how it turns out. I'm tempted to make a new account and see how far I can go with it. -
As a newbie who has been quietly trying to figure out how to get to where I see others are, this will help me a LOT. Thanks bosslady! :DJusta ~ ID# 44842
A chronic sufferer of shiny pony syndrome breeding for DP, Pearl, Brown, Nexus, and Watercolor in Appaloosa, Dun, Sabino 2, and Kit M patterns.
"God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
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Wow, this is great! :D <:-P =D> :x
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Thank you, Ammit
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Geeze! Did you have to get a degree in economics as well as your computer stuff!? NO way could I have figured this stuff out! I used to love playing Sim City, but I was DISMAL at it because I always wanted to make it COOL, and not fuss with the FUNCTIONING part of it!
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I just bought a newly created mare with 908 points off the sales board. This is uh...working out pretty well I would say. :-O
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That is great!
May I make a suggestion? Can we limit the amount of herd helpers that a person can use from the forums per day? It always seems to be the same few people that get the rare ones. This would give other people a chance.User ID: 25715 -
Not sure how you even know what people are getting the shares. That info is not public.
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Because they normally say thank you. Haha. It's not a recent thing. Just something that I've noticed over time. Also, my daughter is fascinated by the page that shows you what pages people are looking at,and quite a few people seem to hang around the herd helper page. Not that that is a crime, of course. Just an observation. I should probably just visit the herd helper page more often!User ID: 25715
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This is awesome! And as an established player, let me just say I would be happy to trade some of my better stock for high point yearlings and two year olds.
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This is wonderful. Thank you:)
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@Senlac - I happen to be off work today so have left the HH page open and occasionally gone back to it while doing housework etc and snagged a couple. Tomorrow I will be at work so it will give you a chance. :D
Also those people will run out of money pretty soon and as the value of RS goes down it will be less of a deal. Exceptionals are already still there 30 mins after - unheard of before!
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Now excuse me I am off to look at the HH page :D
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This has been amazing! Thank you so much for doing this for us. You keep making this game better and better. I'm excited to play my newest account to see if I can make it further this time before upgrading to a basic account. :D
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Brilliant idea! I'm super excited for the new changes. I hope there is another new account contest soon- I missed this one but it looked like fun :D
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Nice. I think this is gonna be great for both the old and new players alike.
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This has been amazing for my account on the other server, I've been trying to start it up properly but it's slow growing with just the 40 stalls (for some reason I didn't get the starter barn but I don't remember why as it was a year ago) and meh show ponies. But this change has been a massive help it's put my daily bonus up from 200 to 800 a day, in just a day.21170 ~ Breeder of quality Liver Chestnut and Chocolate Palomino riding horses and ponies with unique twists. Specializing in Kit Promoter with fancy white patterns.
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