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I'll try my best - someone else can probably elaborate more.
#1 - There are grey horses that are dappled, but as far as I know you can only search for gray. Just like real horses, pixel ponies are born a color and lighten with age, and the dappling (if they have it) is just a "phase".
#2 - Can't really answer this as I only have basic upgrade.
#3 - Papering is a good way to find out how good your stock is. Stallions can be (in ascending order) C, B, A, or Star. Mares can be Yellow, Red, Blue, or Gold. Mare papering is based on their offspring, I think. A lot of people want certain generations to paper a certain level. For example, I am in the process of papering my guys. I want my second generation stallions to paper B, and I cull whoever doesn't make the grade.
#4 - There are warmbloods and sport ponies. You can have your own " stud" and your horses will carry that name. For example, I have Triquetra Warmbloods.
If anyone sees a mistake I made, please set me straight!

Here is a picture of one of my other gray mares in the process of graying out. I don't know if this was the type of dappling you were referring to. This dappling is simply a phase in the graying process. She will eventually be all white. This is also the phase that made me start breeding grays to begin with because I think it's beautiful.

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=341153

1). As the others have said, greys start out a base color and grey out. Some start quite dappled, others don't. fj--my Star Spangled started as a very dapply bay and grayed out to a dappled grey before she went completely white.

2). The premium upgrade gives you everything the basic upgrade does plus some extras. I have the premium and don't know how I could go back to basic...but it's obviously quite a bit more expensive. Worth every penny in my book tho.

3). The basics have been covered but I will touch on a few other things. Gelding Advice and Mare Advice tell you if your horse will be a much worse breeder than their parent of that sex. It is very wise to listen to this advice and geld/spay as recommended. Showing Aptitude Test tells you if your horse has significantly more showing ability than breeding. again, listening to this advice is wise and you should alter horses that test as "showing prospects". Stallions can be papered at birth/creation. In general foundation stallions paper C but can paper as "Showable only". Mares can be papered after they have 3 foals on the ground alive (so you can have older unpapered mares because their foals keep getting culled). They paper based on the quality of their foals, so the quality of the stallions you breed them to has a dramatic effect on their papering...in general foundation mares paper yellow, but if they are decent breeders consistently bred to top stallions, they should paper red. Mares can paper "failed" but this seems to be rare. Performance testing rates the showing potential of your horse. The best score for foundations is 9.9. Performance testing has NOTHING to do with breeding ability--there are some amazing broodmares out there with PTs of 0.2 or so. Horses with high PTs will be able to train for longer before leveling off, thus reaching higher showing levels and thus having the potential to earn more prize money and more points faster than those with lower PTs. However, where a horse actually places in any given show is mostly a function of luck, so an unlucky horse with a great PT may not end up being an amazing show horse.

4). There are currently warmbloods and sport ponies in the game. It is rumored that art is being worked on to have different body types of horses (like drafts and Arabians) but whether that will result in true breed separation is unknown. Currently upgraded members can name their breed individually (within certain rules), thus I breed Ausmerican warmbloods. However, this is almost a stud name rather than a true breed name...

Hidden I have a few black gray mares. They just haven't reached that point in their graying process. I can't wait to watch them.

Thank you so much for all the help :) I just upgraded to premium. It says I'm premium but they extras are still grayed out. I know that it said it would be done as soon as possible. How long did it take for you guys?

It worked! Thank you. How does game time relate to real time?

Homogeneous vs heterogeneous which is more likely to yield gray?

Wait I'm not sure I don't think I'm using herd helper right do I just click and it goes to make the genes I want or?

The Herd Helpers are assigned randomly at each nightly roll-over. We have no choice in what comes up. IF and only IF you have a very large balance in your account (several hundred thousand hajibucks, at least) you might want to gamble on rerolling to find one you like better. Each reroll costs 5000 hbs and is likewise totally random. This is why, if your heart is set on one thing, you have to have a huge amount of game cash stored up. The button to reroll the Herd Helper is to the right of the one that activates it and is only available before you activate one.

Once the Herd Helper has been activated, it gives you the choice of making a filly or gelding, the age you want it to be when you create it (the default age is 3), and whether it is to be a warmblood or a sport pony. Depending on what the Herd Helper is designed to create, there will be one or more genes specified. All the rest are fairly random, but more common colors and patterns will come up more frequently than rarer ones. It's always exciting, when you're making Dark Chestnuts (meaning they are homozygous Red, homozygous Sooty, and homozygous recessive Pangare), to have one pop up with a bonus of Appaloosa or Splash. *G*

I always try to get my herd helper posted in the forum because even if it's one that doesn't interest me, or I'm not wanting to create horses because barn space is getting low, there quite frequently are other players who are looking for that very thing.

I hope this rather lengthy explanation helps clear up some of the confusion about this feature of the game. If you still have questions about it, or something I wrote doesn't make sense to you, don't hesitate to ask.

Ok Grey. The different scoring, testing and papering methods tell you different things about your horses.

The free tests--Gelding Advice, Mare Advice (Strict Mare Advice if upgraded) and Showing Aptitude Test are basically pass/fail tests. The first two tell you if your horse will be a "significantly worse" breeder than their parent of that sex was. Regular mare advice is more lax--easier for a poor breeding mare to pass--than gelding advice is for a colt to pass. Strict Mare Advice is as tough as Gelding Advice and will help you improve your mare herd faster. SAT just tells you if your horse will be significantly better at showing than breeding. Since showing is really your means to make hbs, this helps pinpoint the horses that would most benefit from the training bonus given to spayed or gelded horses in the game, thus allowing them to earn you more points and more money!

Performance Testing has 2 purposes in the game. For the horse you test, it gives you an idea of how fast they will climb th showing ladder, advancing to higher level classes, and how long they will be able to train before leveling off at one class level. Horses that successfully show at higher levels gain more points and earn you more money (successfully showing means not placing last!). After horses level off, as long as they are not placing last in most of their classes they can still be valuable showing animals, but a horse that levels off at level 1L (the lowest level class) probably isn't doing you a lot of good as a show pony. But remember, PT score has nothing to do with that horse's breeding ability! Some excellent broodmares out there have PTs of 0.2 or so. In general, foundation PT scores top out at about 9.9.

The other purpose of PT is the Average Foal Performance Test score, or AFPT. This shows at the bottom of the family page for premium upgraded members, or can be worked out by longhand for regular upgraded members. Basically, the average PT of a horse's offspring can indicate how good a breeder that horse is for their generation. Now, obviously the quality of the foals will be contributed to by both parents, but this can be a good way to weed out mares from your herd--if they are being consistently bred to the same stallions and one mare has a significantly lower AFPT than the others, she probably isn't a great breeder.

Stallion Papering measures the breeding quality of your stallions. They paper: Showable Only, C (most foundations), B, A, *Star.

Mare papering measures the quality of the foals a mare produces, thus mares cannot be tested until they have 3 living foals to be judged. While stallions are judged strictly on their own merit, obviously the quality of stallions that are bred to mares can significantly influence where a mare papers. Mares paper: Failed, Yellow (most foundations), Red, Blue, *Gold. The mare and stallion papering levels are roughly equivalent, so a blue mare is about as good a breeder as an A stallion.

Just like in everything, there are ranges within the papering levels--but the aim should be for each generation of horses you breed to be better than the one it came from--to have better PT scores, be better show horses, and to paper better than its parents and produce even better foals.

Comparison testing can be used for stallions to see if they are about as good as each other or if one is superior. This is particularly helpful to compare stallions in the same generation or to compare stallions to their fathers if both paper at the same level.

Lol no it's great! Thank you for being so thorough

I actually did this a few weeks ago. I had to go to the manage your IV's tab. Then go to shop with IV's and it's on the bottom of the page. It cost 14 IV's to merge accounts. It costs 12,500 Hb's for 1 Iv

Glad these guys knew that because I didn't. I've only ever had one account!