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If you want, and can use straws, I have a stud that would match her, I can sell you a straw from for the pull price of 500 hbs.

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=141843

Ok, going to need your stable ID# to send it to you, as I don't have you on my buddy list yet.

Ok, sent. Hope you get a nice intact foal!

Is that why she's the color she is? She has DP?.

Ok so adding DP to her would create that red color?

I think bright wild bay with DP is a bit lighter but still bright red. One of my wild bay studs is that dark chocolate color too,and he passes that color a lot. I thought he was DP at Cnristmas but have since learned differently. I will be crossing his babies into my Red King line for sure.

If you crossed your mare to my King (homo DP, homo sooty) and got a wild bay, it would look like the saddled boy above. You could also get a DP sooty plain bay or a liver foal from her and King, since she's Ee A+A

Ok, I'm confused reguarding the "redding" that DP does to bay. The whole idea I thought DP did, was make things darker. I have been breeding over on HJ1 on some bays with DP, (or I thought were DP) and I'm getting this color:


http://www.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=3789365

Definately not getting the "red", but this is what I like.

Here on HJ2 I bred my liver appaloosa Freaky Friday horse to a bay dun mare and got this foal. I know he has DP, but I think she does too, because the foal ended up so dark.


http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=352932

I confess to being a little confused as to why it happens, too. The same way I still don't quite get why an AtAt horse is lighter than an Ata horse.

I do know that the red is an image update. Cafe Noir, the horse Cheers posted above, used to be so dark he was almost black, like his sire:


http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=194835

But I rerolled him and he turned out blood bay.

@Abbey Road:
"The same way I still don't quite get why an AtAt horse is lighter than an Ata horse."

I thought I saw Ammit explain it somewhere to this effect:
Let's imagine that the A alleles "remove or lighten" black pigment to brown for the bay look.
At removes only a little black
A removes a medium amount of black
A+ removes a lot of black

So if a horse is Ata: he has only a little black removed, and results in a darker shade of brown
If a horse is AtAt: he has a little black removed by one At, and then another dose of a little black removed by the other At, resulting in a slightly lighter shade of brown.
If a horse A+a: he has a lot of black removed, and you get the wild bay look
If a horse is A+A+: he has a lot of black removed by one A+, and then even MORE black removed by the other A+, resulting in the lightest shade of Bay.

Obviously there are lots of combos in the middle, and Pangere, Sty and DP can affect the shade too. It's probably not the most scientifically appropriate explanation, but it helps me understand what shade I am planning to see.