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Well, that was discouraging...
  • Apparently I am suffering from some truly horrible mare lag. Of the ninety 9th and 10th gen foals I bred only 2 made it out intact. Problem is, I don't have enough studs of varying qualities. I have roughly 3 tiers of studs right now, My highest two, which are obviously too much for my mares. Four studs one tier below that, I will try them with my 9th gen mares next month, and one stud one tier below that. Who I will be trying the year after that, should the second tier studs also prove to be too much.

    If that doesn't work, I am probably going to have to scrap the whole 3 year old breeding program. I wouldn't even know what quality of stud to put with the mares. The higher quality studs are most likely inflating my mare's AFPT scores, making it a guessing game as to what quality they actually are. They are also probably spread out over at least two, if not three tiers of breeding quality at this point. I am not looking forward to starting from scratch.

    I suppose I could use my experimental, uneven breeding lines, to salvage some of the blood from my old lines. If I can get back to A/Blue, or maybe just at start of the Star/gold level of papered horses I could build from there using the new testing parameters (testing against both parents) to keep my mares and studs more even.

    While I get that this will help me move the whole herd forward, taking 5 steps back to get there is not going to be fun.
  • That stinks! Im sorry.
  • Alternately, I could just breed the 9th/10th gen mares and their offspring for a few generations to the same studs, and forego testing. Just look at average foal PT and cull the bottom 40%. Then in a few generations do a test batch to see if the mares have improved (while the studs remain the same). Might be my best bet for salvaging the herd. I will probably do a combo of the two plans.

    I can use the males as my test batch each generation. Since I won't need studs. Once they start surviving I can start testing the mares again.
  • That is 2 bad. I am sorry.
  • It will be fine, I have a workable plan now, and a backup. It'll take 9-12 months to see the results, but it should work.
  • Good luck to you I hope things work out for you
  • Well at least you know it will never happen again.

    I would not scrap anything or worry about "even". I'd just breed them all to a lower ability stud next season. I am having to do the same on my other account as my stud is 10 to 15 points higher than most of my mares.
    Thanked by 1High Five Acres
  • When I say "even" in this context I mean even ability. Hoping my lower quality studs are lower enough. If not I will figure it out. It may mean a few generations of not testing the mares, and not changing the stud, until I get the mares raised up. Am I correct in assuming that if I test the males, and get to a point where they aren't all getting altered, that the mares should be of roughly similar quality and I can start testing them again safely?
  • I'm not positive to be honest. You will get a ton of duds. I'd just stick to normal instead of strict on the mares to give them some wiggle room to catch up maybe?
  • I was planning on using AFPT to cull the bottom 40% of mares as I went (and their offspring) to reduce the number of duds.
  • I think that would make your mares fall even farther behind to be honest.

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