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Questions about secret Santa logistics
  • I am getting just slightly overwhelmed by the secret Santa prospect... I don’t want to let my person down!
    If someone could help me out with a few queries regarding how this all works that would be great :)

    - Is it possible to gift barns or GMTs using HBs instead of real money? Can you send just the IVs perhaps?

    Being a basic upgrade account, I am unable to create embryos.
    - Am I able to get these created by someone else and then forwarded to my SS?
    - If I found a stud that seemed promising, would I get the owner to send a straw over to the owner of a mare for brood I thought would match well, then they create the embryo to send to my SS? Or do they breed the foal and then gift that to my recipient once we know whether it passes BA?
    - Can I do this with closed genes I don’t own?

    We are given a spending limit for whichever category we opted to enter
    - Do you count the approximate market value of your gifts, or does it only count as what it cost you to buy/create?
    (The reason I ask is if you were to create a rare foundation horse that would be worth a lot in a forum auction and gifted that, does it count as over 100k, or just the 2500hb create price?)
  • About gifting barns using hbs: You would have to send enough hbs so your SS can buy the IV's needed to buy the barn. There is no way to transfer IVs.

    I'm not sure about the answers to your embryo questions.

    I believe that you would only count what the horse actually cost you to create. Sale value fluctuates too much to be a reliable amount for tallying.
    De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."

    SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
    also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592
  • So, if you create a Candy Pony, it would only be worth 2500 hbs instead of the 230,000 - 250,000 that it is actually worth?
  • As an Elf for SS, along with being a participant, I am capable of making embryos or babies (in any of the closed genes I own) to facilitate SS gifts if someone is incapable of making them (such as not having premium upgrade or not owning one of the closed genes their recipients owns).

    In fact I've already been asked by a couple of participants to facilitate obtaining and gifting their SS with certain closed genes.

    Ways this can be done is a transfer of money between the Elf and The Sender then the participant only has the standard 1hb costs since the game wont allow less or the Sender buys a show horse from the Elf for the cost of the transaction to make the embryo/implant etc and then the Elf delivers the end result to your recipient for 1 hb thereby maintaining your anonymity. (least this is my understanding of it)

    I can happily send straws/eggs the same way if needed.

    This is also how the Elf can facilitate a transfer of HBs to your SS. Sandy is correct when she says there's no way to transfer IVS/GMTS otherwise, unless you use RL and put your SSs ID in instead of your own.

    I think there is a bit of wiggle room in the what it costs to buy vs value of the horse and whether it counts towards your value. After all a lot of people are drastically marking down horses for people to gift their SS but if those horses were GMTd or had expensive genes their actual value could well meet your "amount" requirements. Such as if it's a Candy Pony that still has the GMT attached, its worth the cost of one GMT (250k hbs) that is something that can be valued out as set worth of the horse because you can look in the GMT lab and see how many IVs it takes to equal the GMT/Gene and how many hbs it would cost to do. Those are set values. (Though if you have a Candy that you made for create price and that is your gift I'd also add in a straw bundle or some show ponies because really you should spend at least the minimum amount of hbs for your group on your SS imo)
    God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
    Shield Maiden. Chiari Warrior. Sometime Equestrian. *47002*
    Tir Na Nog Stables - Home of Hooligans, Shenanigans and Mischief. Purveyor of Oddball RS. Hoarder of A Rhythm Of Fours.
    Thanked by 1ConfluenceFarms
  • Thanks. Candy Pony definitely wouldn’t be the only gift, but that’s the only sure way I can think of to send GMTs! So I had hoped it would be considered a somewhat valuable gift as I would otherwise keep it for myself.
    Unfortunately I transfer a lot of my HBs into IVs when I get them so will have to make some money so I can send some money!

    Are embryos preferred gifts or actual foals that can be tested first as somewhat of a guarantee? Or do you work around it by making multiple embryos of the same pairing? A lot of this stuff I don’t have any experience with, wish I was a premium upgraded account so I didn’t sound so ignorant asking all these questions. I don’t even know the abbreviations for some of my SS’s closed genes X_X
  • @SquishLime if you need help with abbreviations you can send me a pm with them and I can try and tell you what they are!
    A Candy pony with the GMT attached is definitely worth the value of the GMT itself.
    As far as embryo/foal debate I think there is preference towards the actual foal for the exact reason you suggested it can be pretested so you and your SS know whether they are receiving a show pony or an intact.
    You don't sound ignorant, it's ok to ask questions, there's probably someone else on forum reading this going I'm so glad someone asked that!
    God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
    Shield Maiden. Chiari Warrior. Sometime Equestrian. *47002*
    Tir Na Nog Stables - Home of Hooligans, Shenanigans and Mischief. Purveyor of Oddball RS. Hoarder of A Rhythm Of Fours.
    Thanked by 1ConfluenceFarms
  • Thank you Ceffyl, will send you a PM!
  • How do you reveal yourself if you haven’t got your own private chat to put everything in? Do you send your SS a PM and ask them to add you to their chat? Do we have to wait until it’s December 24th in game time? Because I’m in Australia and it’ll be Christmas here by then just about!
  • For a basic upgrade, you can create embryos. However you have to use a mare that you own to do so. You cannot use eggs.
    Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
    Prices are almost always negotiable.
  • Squishlime, I've changed it to Dec 23rd for exactly that reason. Yes, you wait until then, then send a PM to your assigned recipient, unless you want to do anonymous gifts. Anonymous gifts are not SUPPOSED to go out before the 20th, but no one ever pays attention to that! :Pimage
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  • Thanks I’m getting so stressed about this, wondering if I’m going to be doing enough. And it’s so hard not owning any of the same closed genes! I think I’ll be sitting SS out next year but for now I’ve got to try not to fail anyone.
  • The candy pony is somewhat confusing on value. We've had a discussion about this in the Santa chat. Lots of opinions about it.

    I don't own any of the genes my SS has either squish. I'm just doing the best I can & hope they are happy with it.
  • Elfs are here partially for that purpose, find one who owns the gene in question and they can hold onto and then transfer to your recipient. Your only responsibility is to send the funds to cover the cost of the pixel pony with the gene to your Elf and let them know which pixel it is and who it goes to and when. They take care of all the handling.
    God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
    Shield Maiden. Chiari Warrior. Sometime Equestrian. *47002*
    Tir Na Nog Stables - Home of Hooligans, Shenanigans and Mischief. Purveyor of Oddball RS. Hoarder of A Rhythm Of Fours.
  • Typically I tend to tally up the price I paid unless I had been struggling to make the minimum amount (one year I spent 100hbs on 100 straws so I tallied up pull price) but for the most part people aren’t going to be combing through the records and forums to find prices on the gifts they received and counting it up to see if you are over or under the limits and if they are they aren’t going to last long here because our community isn’t like that.

    This is supposed to be fun not stress yourself out.

    As for closed genes I only own ice 14 on this server but have found the other players extremely helpful for arranging for the gifts to be sent to my SS’s.

    I’ve just been PM’ing everyone saying

    I found this post X and was wondering if I could get straws to XYZ sent to my SS ______ ID# ____ as I don’t own the license. Let me know the total costs and I will send a money transfer soon

    (or ask them to put up a create horse for the price for you to buy or if some of the straws are open ask them to add the totals up and send those straws to you priced for all the straws)
  • Like Bandit says we've got an awesome community that will aide and abet in getting your gifts to your SS and SS is definitely not meant to stress you out.
    God grant me the hbs to buy the ponies I need,
    The fortitude to resist the shiny ones I truly don't,
    And the wisdom to know there will always be more next time.
    Shield Maiden. Chiari Warrior. Sometime Equestrian. *47002*
    Tir Na Nog Stables - Home of Hooligans, Shenanigans and Mischief. Purveyor of Oddball RS. Hoarder of A Rhythm Of Fours.

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