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Do I gamble and test him
  • So this is one of my very first embryo babies that Lallyhop was so kind enough to make with a straw and send back to me, and he is so pretty and everything I want. I'm afraid to BA him for fear of him being gelded, and I don't have the hbs or GMTs to unalter him if he is gelded. What should I do?

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    Collecting- Appaloosas, Snowflakes, and Kit M
  • Personally, I SBA or BA pretty much everything (bootstrap herd being the only exception really). If they don't pass, as much as it hurts, then I don't feel they should be in my breeding program.

    Another option is to give him a boost so that he is more likely to pass but, this will cost money as well so may not be an option. He's gorgeous regardless and would make a stunning show pony if nothing else.
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  • Considering the sire is B and dam is Gold I wouldn't test him if I really wanted to keep him. There's a really low chance he'd pass.
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  • There is absolutely no chance he would pass. If you want to breed him, you should turn off testing on him.
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  • He was a happy accident. I sent the wrong straw to and ended up with this cutie. I ended up gelding him, as I'm trying my best to improve my herd by quality not just pretty ponies! He'll get to be a pretty show pony.
    ID # 8458

    Collecting- Appaloosas, Snowflakes, and Kit M
  • @Maribo That's not entirely true. I've had the rare foal pass SBA when there was an extreme difference in parents' paper levels without pasture bonus. It's probably a 1 in 1mil chance but it does happen.
  • @SeldomSeen No, it is not possible if there is a whole paper level between them. If one was a mid-high B and the parent was a low-mid A it could work. Mayyybe even a high A parent and a high B foal - I have not played around with it that much.
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  • Also, breeding advice works by numbers :) Only Ammit knows the exact numbers, but lets say (just as an example), that BA allows foals that are 5% worse than their highest parent, and SBA allows foals that are 2% worse than their highest parent. There is no "one in a million chance". It's all numbers, and they either are good enough, or they are not :)
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  • Maribo I don't know the numbers but I was breeding for some show ponies a while back and that's when I play around crossing colors and patterns just to see what happens and possibly give me future breeding goals. I've never tried with a star stud but I usually cross A to yellow/ foundation for this and I have had SBA passed foals The boys I gelded but I do have some fillies to show in example. It truly shocked me to say the least. B to yellow its not a rare thing but it does get rare going beyond that.
    A stud Yellow foundation. Blue papered SBA passed
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  • I think you are misunderstanding me. I am not talking about mare vs. stud papering. I am talking about foal vs. parents. The foal in question is a B papered colt out of a gold papered mare. BA/SBA compares the foal to it's parents. It will geld the colt because he is B papered wich is alot worse than his gold papered dam.

    It's not weird at all that your blue fillies stayed intact when their parents are yellow/blue.
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