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Ammit popped onto that thread to explain that HHs can't be stolen and that it's not against the rules to grab an HH that wasn't shared.

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/65736/somebody-stole-my-herd-helper-share#Item_17

Honestly I agree with you, @SpryOfJune. But that’s why I take it upon myself to just not do that kind of thing. It doesn’t seem fair to me.

Agreed! 100% @SeldomSeen

I really feel like it's cheating, not only that but its extremely unfair.

The thing is with how the HH's are set up it'll be very difficult to stop behaviour like this. The entire system for HH's might need to be changed if they try, since all you need to do is to change the random sequence of numbers.

One thing I have noticed with the RS being more likely to pop up with HH's is that the price of them has dropped. Used to be you couldn't pay 10k for a RS under 4 years old, no matter the RS. Now it's a very plausible price for many of them. Removing them from the HH would make their price sky rocket again.

That’s what I’m thinking. I used to play on HJ1 a LONG looong time ago. And I do remember Rank Specials going for like $15k and $25k and people got more excited for them. They certainly had more value. Even a basic black Brindle was an exciting drop that could sell for $25k. I recently sold a black Brindle to auction for $2500. That would have been unheard of back then.

I found that for people who didn’t have money for those special special genes (me at the time), the RS they got during holidays were synonymous to having something special in your heard— not as special as Ice or S+ or satin, but still special. Now I’ll admit, it’s kind of hard to get that feeling, especially with foundations, unless you pay real money. I own a ton of RS and still don’t feel like I have anything that special and valuable as far as genes and colors go.


And I also remember being able to use RS horses as a way to earn money when I needed it. If I needed $100k I just sold like 4 or 5 of my RS and I was in the club. This was helpful for smaller barns. And it also helped those who wanted the RS ;) It was a win win.


It’s a good option to consider in my very humble opinion... and I especially like the candy pony drop idea.

I’d imagine you don’t want to create an economy where nothing is special unless you have real money to spend. And honestly there’s not many horse genes in this game you can get that are super special unless you pay real money or tons and tons of game money. But I don’t remember it used to be that way.... And that kind of takes away a certain very special aspect to the game.

I think making them like candy drops is a wonderful idea because it adds a little excitement. Just enough. And the value should still hold on the RS.

I feel like there are a lot of people trying to maintain that RS are still as special as they used to be— but if you add the fact that anyone can use the HH even without clicking the link, they kinda start to become a little more lack luster.

@obsidiankatsune

. Used to be you couldn't pay 10k for a RS under 4 years old, no matter the RS. Now it's a very plausible price for many of them. Removing them from the HH would make their price sky rocket again.

A while ago new players were talking/asking about RSs and cost and ammit said (something to the gist of) there is no reason for them to be that high cost since they are just foundations whose base cost [like all the rest] should be 2500, pricing for rarity or fancy colors sure, but she said their prices were high and ridiculous. (Granted. I am heavily paraphrasing and this was forever ago. But I think the RS in HH is making them a good, or better, more normal price.)

Whether or not you find it appalling there is no way to enforce such a restriction. I am not going to punish people for something that can't be enforced. I have never said it was good sportsmanship to do that. Just that they are not secret and there is nothing I can do here.

I have always discouraged the guess the rank special games because of such issues, but have always been ignored and finally gave up. If it can't be enforced I am not sure what you guys expect me to do.


In a hypothetical future, we could completely rewrite how the herd helper system works from the ground up to make these secret but I don't see us having the time for that right now. Not when the new layout is taking all of our resources.

I have found that a few persons who took my herd helpers are selling them in the likes if 25+k.. now weather they'll get that for them or not is to be seen, but I still think it's a rude move to try and take someones HH share just to sell it for five times the price you got it at.
My neice wanted an Autumn's arrival and I waited four months to roll one only to have it taken and now asking so much for it? Kinda seems rude to me. So as it may not be against the rules, I think the majority of us see it as unfair and have decided against doing it ourselves. Some are even going as far as to disassociate with the players that do this.
Thanks for everyone who loves this game and tries too keep it fun and loving! :)