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Painted Dreams · Jul 24, 2018 10:42 PM

I just made this girl from a homozygous brown herd helper and like it says she is hom for brown (At) but she color tested bay. Is that a glitch, shouldn't she color test brown? Can someone explain this?

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SquishLime · Jul 24, 2018 11:22 PM

I assumed that HH was for homozygous At, the brown gene, as opposed to phenotypically presenting as brown coloured.
If you do a search of the tattoo there are other bay horses the same as yours

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supersarah · Jul 24, 2018 11:47 PM

I think you need sty as well to be brown, I have hom brown mares and only the sty ones are named phonetically brown. This applies to the few sables I have as well.

Painted Dreams · Jul 25, 2018 1:19 AM

That's interesting. I was not aware of any gene needing sooty to show.

ConfluenceFarms · Jul 25, 2018 1:24 AM

There was something about bays showing up in brown herd helpers, but I can't find it, and I don't remember the explanation! Someone who has a functioning memory should be along shortly to explain! :P

(I think it has to do with the fact that she is Ee? <- pulled out of thin air, do not accept it as fact!)

Haltanny · Jul 25, 2018 1:38 AM

Non sooty hom At always show as bay. And they pretty much look like bay, so kind of makes sense. A sooty hom At will be labeled brown and a non sooty het At will be labeled brown.

Ammit · Jul 25, 2018 11:40 AM

The color label is based on the phenotype not the genotype. Yes this horse has the brown gene but it is a bay horse not a brown one.

Painted Dreams · Jul 25, 2018 11:55 AM

Thank you everyone. That's good to know!

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