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Ideas for This Boy?
  • I am very new and am currently trying to focus on working on a bootstrapping line to fund future projects.
    With all the pretty horses on this site I am meeting with moderate success. ;)

    I managed to get my first Rank Special HH share yesterday (Catch a Blue Moon) and created a lovely WB mare.
    I bred her to a foundation Black Appaloosa Rabicano stallion that I have not been able to bring myself to snip yet and got a little colt that I think is gorgeous:
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    BW Razzle Dazzle


    He is so messy and fun! I just love how he turned out.
    He passed the BA (which isn't much of a suprise) his testing isn't much to look at but I am wondering if it would be fun to start playing with him as a foundation for a fun coloured/messy line that I can work on breeding quality into.

    I was just wondering if he is worth it and, if so, where to start.
    What type of ladies do you think would pair well with him?
    I understand that I need to be careful with Splash and Frame. I am still trying to wrap my head around all the genetics. @-)

    I would love to hear your thoughts and ideas if you have any to share. Oh! And pictures! I am a visual person. :)
    ID# 47364

    Breeding for all version of black drafts. (Including black liver)
    Help me build my black brindle army!
    Always looking to buy foundation brindle drafts in black, blue roan, grullo, classic champagne, etc.

    I work a 7day on 7day off schedule and my activity here will reflect that.
    I can be very scatterbrained and forgetful so if I don't get back to you in a decent amount of time just poke me.
  • Actually, the only splashs that you need to be careful are Splash 3 and Splash 2. Both are homozygous lethal, like frame, and lethal with each other. Splash 1 and Splash M are safe with everything.

    The main thing you're going to want to do would be to for "messy" horses would be to look at the kit genes. You have W2 which is a great messy gene! However kit genes can be lethal when they have enough white on the horse. Here's a link that talks about it, as well as notes how safe a cross is. Just keep in mind that Splash, frame, and W20 increase the WF (although appy does not):

    http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/13757/new-kit-lethality-and-kit-mutation-load-explained#Item_13
    Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
    Prices are almost always negotiable.
  • As for what to breed him to, I'd say to use the horse search! Play around with it for a while, finding combos of genes. I went through my stock and picked out a fair few interesting white patterned horses, which I'll share here:

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    2 Crested Drum f
    W2 and frame. The frame causes the solid areas of white on the body, with the W2 adding it's own special hazing.

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    2SFZ Only A Little One F
    Another W2 and frame, this one with splash

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    2AP Dance of Spots
    W2, appy, and splash. The appy is easy to see. The W2 is the stripes on the body, with the splash being the solid whites on the face and legs.

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    Sakura Blizzard
    W2 and frame all on a leopard appy. Love this girl!

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    Heart Breaking Decision
    W8 and frame. The W8 is causing the "spray paint" like effect on the edges of the white.

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    4 Thundering Dream
    Another W8 with frame, this one with sabino as well over a S+ smokey black.

    And THEN you've got sabino 1. I love this gene and need more of it. It's easy to get too much white on a horse with this gene and cause them to be solid if paired with W20, but it does amazing stuff.

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    LV SB
    W20 and sabino 1, with a light WF. Any more and she'd probably be a solid white.

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    4 Dark Rhythm
    Homozygous sabino 1 with minimal WF, on a liver. Love the flecks!

    If you want to get into W8 and breed for colour, I have an addmittedly badly papered mare that I should've altered. She's a red 4G and I like blue at that stage. I was going to alter her to throw into my bootstrap line both for colour and bone, but could sell her to you. She's het w8, het SB1

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    4K8 Thunder Struck


    Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
    Prices are almost always negotiable.
  • These are all such lovely examples!
    W2 and frame and splash are so cool when mixed and W8 is so neat!

    I was wondering about sabino, it looks like it could be so much fun.
    I also if rabicano could add anything interesting. Or roan.

    I guess the possibilities for play are endless.

    Your Thunder Struck girl is gorgeous! If you are not super attached to her I would buy her off of you. :)
    ID# 47364

    Breeding for all version of black drafts. (Including black liver)
    Help me build my black brindle army!
    Always looking to buy foundation brindle drafts in black, blue roan, grullo, classic champagne, etc.

    I work a 7day on 7day off schedule and my activity here will reflect that.
    I can be very scatterbrained and forgetful so if I don't get back to you in a decent amount of time just poke me.
  • I'd sell her to you for 8k. She's most likely a high red so won't be the best match for your boy, but maybe his offspring. Can put her up in a chat room but I sadly can't make my own.

    And rabicano and roan could add interesting effects. Rabicano tends to stay with the belly area, whereas roan affects the entire body. Both in different ways.

    Sakura has Rabicano but, because her body is mostly white, you can't really see it.

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    2SF Aye for an Eye F
    Roan and rabicano on a splash/frame.

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    E Appy Rab 2
    Rabicano mixed in with appy. The more solid rib stripes are caused by the appy, with the small flecks the rabicano.

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    2AP Dancing an SplashingF
    Roan and rabicano on a leopard appy

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    2SF Moonlit Hill
    W2, roan and splash

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    3ZS Music Mystic
    Silver Blue roan is actually a lovely combo

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    SD 1719597 B2
    And of course, roan can cause corn spots.

    Roan and Rabicano aren't something I breed much for, but those are examples from my herd.
    Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
    Prices are almost always negotiable.
  • I would happily pay 8k for her. :)

    I can't make my own chat either but the Bootstrap chat might be safe.

    You have so many beautiful horses!
    I love silver with blue roan, silver blacks and grullos. I like most blacks in general and was thinking about trying to keep to black and greyscale colours eventually. (Fits nicely with the barn name) ;)
    ID# 47364

    Breeding for all version of black drafts. (Including black liver)
    Help me build my black brindle army!
    Always looking to buy foundation brindle drafts in black, blue roan, grullo, classic champagne, etc.

    I work a 7day on 7day off schedule and my activity here will reflect that.
    I can be very scatterbrained and forgetful so if I don't get back to you in a decent amount of time just poke me.
  • I'll put her up there for you!

    You should also wait for the other members to come in and share their beauties xD There are so many combos in the game and I know I have far from all of them. The only kit genes I really have are w2, w8, sabino, tobiano and roan. There are plenty others
    Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
    Prices are almost always negotiable.
  • I can't wait to see other people's ideas.

    The possibilities really are endless.
    ID# 47364

    Breeding for all version of black drafts. (Including black liver)
    Help me build my black brindle army!
    Always looking to buy foundation brindle drafts in black, blue roan, grullo, classic champagne, etc.

    I work a 7day on 7day off schedule and my activity here will reflect that.
    I can be very scatterbrained and forgetful so if I don't get back to you in a decent amount of time just poke me.
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    DP U4 Picture Perfect

    This lady is w3, splash and frame

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    DP U4 Discovery

    She's w3 with extensive white factor

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    DP U7 QueenOfDiamonds sa

    W8 on an appy

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    DP G3 WeAllFallDown pkp

    Sabino 2 with w20

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    DP G3 Obsidion

    She's w1 with frame.

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