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SqueakerBrown · Apr 12, 2018 10:02 PM

If anyone gets a Brown Freaky Friday (aAt, Ata, AtA, AtAt) I'll pay pretty handsomely for them. Don't really care if Mare or Stallion (GMT ftw)

ColorGoodStables · Apr 12, 2018 10:13 PM

Pretty sure the only way to get brown on a freaky Friday is to gmt it on. I could be wrong though.
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ObsidianKitsune · Apr 12, 2018 10:17 PM

Freaky Fridays guarantee only hom dp, hom sooty and hom frame. So therefor they can get At and E to make them brown, however it is unlikely.

HeavenlyHooves · Apr 12, 2018 10:45 PM

Mine came out liver but looks black

ObsidianKitsune · Apr 12, 2018 11:39 PM

That is because livers with all four darkening genes, hom dp and hom sooty (which all FF are) are naturally that dark. They're called "Black Livers"

Maribo · Apr 13, 2018 9:29 AM

No, FF can not come with At. They all look "black", but are either black or black liver.

Snapdragon · Apr 13, 2018 10:05 AM

There are two champagnes in one of the Freaky Friday threads. They don't all look black! I saw a blue roan today too.

duelinghawks · Apr 13, 2018 10:27 AM

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Is this the dark liver color you're going for? He doesn't have frame like FF but he's untested/turned off. Make an offer :-)

duelinghawks · Apr 13, 2018 10:33 AM

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This guy is a liver chestnut frame just like FF and passed BA for 7000hbs

RoseMorning · Apr 13, 2018 10:34 AM

I wished I could trade my Black FF for a Liver FF too. I was so disappointed when I saw mine was black.

SandycreekFarm · Apr 13, 2018 12:08 PM

@RoseMorning

If you can afford it, you would only need to buy enough GMT's to remove his dominant extension. That would be either one if it's Ee or two if it's EE.

Haltanny · Apr 13, 2018 5:54 PM

FF are all black or black liver. Roan, champagne and maybe cream are uncommon. All bay and brown FF have been GMT'd as such. I've not looked at every FF with a cream allele, but the ones I have looked at were GMT'd, so not sure if that's actually possible or not in a create.

ObsidianKitsune · Apr 13, 2018 6:04 PM

Like I said before, Freaky Friday's are only guaranteed to be hom dp, hom sooty and hom frame. Nothing else, which means they can have any other gene combination that doesn't affect those three. You have the same chance of one of them popping out a brown as you do if you'd create a random horse with no HH. It'd be very very rare, but technically probable.

kintara · Apr 13, 2018 6:11 PM

No Freaky Friday horses have agouti, unless gmt'd on. They are also guaranteed non agouti

kintara · Apr 13, 2018 6:14 PM

I got a double cream FF once!

Maribo · Apr 14, 2018 1:46 PM

Freaky Fridays are also homozygous recessive agouti.

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