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Inconsistent Breeders
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I've seen players mention they cull inconsistency from their herds but am not sure of the reason?
I am a small herd of breeders separate from my main which I'm trying to keep to stricter standards. Frustratingly, all but one of my 2nd gen blues this season were inconsistent so now I need to decide for myself if inconsistently is something I want to care about. Why do other players remove inconsistency?
For curiosity, these are the offenders
QC2 Time Rolls On
QC2 Grateful Shadows
QC2 Sweet Shade
And the one I can be most pleased about
QC2 Burnt To Ashes
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I am super strict with my breeding horses, but even with that I will let inconsistency pass if the color is amazing. It can be a deal breaker if everything else is equal, though.
In my show horses I couldn't care less! As long as they aren't dead last in a class I just let them do their thing their way!
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See I've been thinning my show heard and my breeding herd. I'm trying to increase my show bonuses and only breeding horses that test high and breed higher. But my goals are to breed top quality horses and to eventually breed a top producing mare or stallion. It all depends on your goals for the game. One of my other accounts I'm breeding for color not quality.Thanked by 1Willoway
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I cull based on consistency for 2 reasons. I’ve been playing since 2006 before consistency testing was introduced there weren’t a whole lot of testing available to weed out low quality horses and the show system was very hands on and to be successful at showing you needed to monitor each horses scores and guess whether or not they would be profitable if shows again that week or if letting them rest a week or two would be better if they were on track to place low and cost lots of money (classes were also much more expensive)
Consistent horses were much easier to show as they would score the predicted score or just a little above or below.
Inconsistent horses may score the predicted score or they could score way higher or way lower too.
Inconsistency lowers PT scores so if you cull mares based on average foal pt it will make a mare appear lower quality than she is if she has inconsistent foals.
The second reason I cull based on inconsistency is to lower the number of horses I keep for breeding. Now that the show system has been changed it doesn’t cost as much if an inconsistent horse places lower so I keep all the foals inconsistent or notThanked by 1Willoway -
I'd like to add to this discussion the fact that inconsistency applies only to showing ability and the possible variations between the actual show score in a given week.
However, since consistency is a somewhat inheritable trait, inconsistent horses are more likely to have inconsistent foals, although it's possible to breed two inconsistent horses and get a foal that tests consistent. Likewise, you can breed two consistent horses together and get an inconsistent foal, although they are more likely to have consistent offspring.De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592Thanked by 1Willoway -
I keep all show horses, regardless of consistency.
I do cull inconsistent horses out of my breeding herd as much as possible. If I’m in love with their colors, I spend a GMT to make them consistent. If I’m not, I snip and throw them in my show herd. I cull this way because the primary way I weed out my herds is via mare Average Foal PT (AFPT). Consistent parents still throw some portion of inconsistent foals, but inconsistent parents throw more inconsistent foals. I’d rather compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges.
All that said, I didn’t always cull this way. Over time, my culling process has refined and become more strict. It’s fine to have less strict methods, or totally different methods, than other players. You play so it makes you happy. Don’t try to fit into someone else’s mold, especially not into a player like me who is old and has tons of hbs to spend on things like GMTs. If you love those foals, keep them. You can always cull later if they aren’t working for you! -
I personally don’t cull on consistency. I think usual testing BA and SBA cull some of it on their own. I find that sometimes they’re better show horses. Sometimes they may not have the best days. But normally they are still getting points. Sometimes they are just that little bit amazing enough to do extremely better. I think it’s better than the horse that gets consistently ehBreeder of any and all crazy colored drafts and RH horses.Thanked by 1Willoway
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The beauty of a game like this is you can play any way you want and it doesn’t matter if your not playing it exactly the same as someone else. Our community is also very generous about helping each other’s reach their goals.Thanked by 1Willoway
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I think I understand a bit better now, thanks guys. I might just let these guys stay for now and see for myself what their AFPT is like compared to the rest.
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I haven't seen much difference in the breeding of inconsistent or consistent horses. I have Inconsistent studs that have the same number, or even fewer, inconsistent foals than a consistent stud.
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@DevilsParadise I’m not contradicting your personal experience, but the game goddess has told us that Consistency/inconsistency is at least partially inherited.