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Sable is basically brown champagne.

Champagne is a simple dominant gene, so either 1 or 2 copies of Ch is needed.

Brown is more complex. It is one of 4 alleles of the Agoui gene. It is recessive to A+ (wild bay) and A (regular bay) and incompletely dominant to a (black). Because it acts by restricting black to the points (removing it from the body) AtAt is lighter than Ata.
Ata is always brown and will be sable with champagne. AtAt requires at least one sooty to be brown (or sable) and is never as dark as Ata.

So if you want a sable foal from your sable mare, you should avoid stallions with either A or A+, and look for champagne, and At and/or a, and sooty is a help. However, unless at least one of the parents is homozygous for both champagne and At, there is no way to guarantee a sable foal.

If you link your mare we can tell you the essential
Genotype your stallion must have to give you the best chances of a sable foal. Using an EE AtAt stallion will seriously up your chances.

So this guy would have no chance of having a sable foal because he is only Aa and no champagne?

BreakingBoundaries BFB BB

Could this girl give me a sable with the right stud?


Chocolate Creme ChPa DC

But this is the mare I want to breed:


Yoggy Joggy SaCRRB YL

And she's had a sable foal with this guy..


Nanotechnical Prime

So I need the mixture of Champagne, At and sooty?

Would this guy give her one?


Barqua Alee BnAppBr CA

The first stud you post has a chance at producing sable if bred to a mare with at least one At & Ch.

The second stud (king's ransom) you posted has a chance at producing sable if bred to a mare with at least one At. (He has the E & Ch)

The first mare (king's ransom) has a chance to produce sable with almost any stud (she has the E At & Ch).

The dark chocolate mare can't produce sable.

He has a 50% chance of handing down each of the important genes--At, Champagne, and Sooty. I'm not enough of a mathematician (read that not at all *G*) to compute the chance that he would pass along all three at the same time. If the mare has Ata or AtAt, and homozygous Champagne and Sooty, the odds of a sable foal would be pretty high with this stud, especially since he would always hand on dominant Extension.

I think that's all correct.

I'm finding I have a limited amount to horses to work with, breeding wise.. seeing as I was loving dark colors so much. Lol this is helping SO much! Thank you guys for helping me!
Any and all ways of explaining help immensely! :D

That guy could easily produce sable if bred to an At mare. Mares with EE AtAt would give the best chance (even more so if the mare has Ch), but you may still get sable from E- At- or possibly even ee At-.

She won't be able to produce sable because she is AA. All of her foals will get an A from her and will be bay/amber. Bays (A+ and A) are dominant to Brown (At), so you will never get sable(or brown) from a homozygous bay (A+A+, A+A or AA). Sometimes a Herd helper will say "dark bay" or "dark amber" and once the horse is created it is tagged "brown" or "sable" but has the bay/amber genetics. I'm not sure why they get mislabeled sometimes, but I've seen it before.

I have some champagne mares that would produce sable if bred to Brown studs. I can pull them out of auction, if you'd like. They passed SBA.

These are all foundation mares. I have 5, but they are all under 16hh.

If she were a warmblood I would take her, but I'm trying not to get too many horses at the moment. Lol :P thank you though!