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Level 1 J with 1.0 points and 14 winnings.

This is my horse as listed on breeding page- I created him the other day, he's had 1 training session and 2 comps- why does it says 14 winnings? Next week when I get him to compete, does that mean he will actually be in higher level class?

Ok, thanks very much :)

Thank you SandyCreek, lots of great info as usual :)
I did notice last night that most of my foundations had gone up from L1 which is exciting to me ;) Can't wait for the new week! Haha

To some degree it depends on when they level up. Horses will not do as well in shows right after they level, but when they've been that level a while they may out perform their same level counterparts. This used to be really important in the way showing worked, but now the most important thing is just to accumulate points (so show a lot, and show a lot of horses if you can).

She did fairly well, in points, actually, since the classes were small. I see that her PT score is only 6.6, so she won't add a lot to her score with training and will probably level off at a fairly low place. However, as Abbey said, she will still add some points toward your showing bonus, so don't give up on showing her just yet.

I see you haven't tested her completely. It would be a good idea to use SAT and Mare Advice to make sure she will be good for breeding, since she's not going to be an outstanding show horse.

It was lucky, but not at all impossible. I had a mare with a similar PT early in my playing years. She actually papered Red and was one of my favorite brood mares. Remember, especially with foundations, PT had NOTHING to do with breeding ability.

Actually, MA should take off that "untested" rating. But I can understand needing to get some rest. As long as it gets done, sometime.

I'm sorry to hear about your dog. See you tomorrow.

I'm glad your dog wasn't seriously sick and is now feeling better.

Yes, the PT of the parents does have a little something to do with the PT level of their foals, but the breeding ability score of the parents probably has a lot more to do with the chances of getting higher PT foals, once you get past the foundation generation, where there is no connection. I'll have to go to my HaJ 1 stable for this example.

One of my *Gold mares, IronStarsInBattle, (PT 12.7) has an average foal PT of 12.27, with 6 living offspring counting toward that number. From lowest to highest PT, they are: 11.9, 12.1, 12.2, 12.4, 12.4, 12.6. The PT scores of their sires (in the same order) is: 12.7, 12.1, 12.2, 13.5, 12.1, 12.5. The average foal PT of those sires, again in the same order) is: 12.65, 12.28, 12.53, 12.81, 12.28, 12.39.

Note that sire number 2 is the same horse as sire number 5. Note also, that she and the sire of the foal with the lowest PT have the same PT, which is higher than that of any of her offspring.

The parents of IronStarInBattle and the stallions I bred her to may have had higher PTs than their parents, but not necessarily. The stallions, at least, most likely had a higher breeding ability than their sires and were definitely about as good as their sires if not superior. It's harder to tell about the breeding ability of dams, of course, until they have three live foals so they can be papered.

The highest 9.9 x 9.9 can create is 10.4, correct?

Yes, if both mare and stallion have 100% breeding ability, which is not necessarily the case. The range of a perfect foundation cross covers 16 possible foal PT outcomes--that's a pretty broad spectrum. I'm not sure if the range for higher breeding abilities continues to be as broad, but it probably does. Only Ammit knows for sure, and she isn't telling. *G*

Don't worry too much about any difficulty wrapping your brain about this aspect of the game. Breeding, especially for increasingly higher generations, is probably the most complex game activity, in my opinion, since it is affected in many ways, not just one or two, by the life-like uncertainty Ammit had built into the game on purpose.

I'm not sure I've got a very good handle on it myself. At least, in practical terms, I don't, since my breeding program tends to be rather haphazard in its results.

I started playing HaJ 1 in 2011, after watching over my daughter's shoulder while she played for 8 months, and this game since 2013, so I've had lots of time to figure things out. Yet I'm still a relative newcomer. Some players have been around since HaJ 1 began, nine years ago.

I definitely agree with you that the uncertainty factor is one of the things that keeps the games fascinating. That and the fact that Ammit keeps on finding ways to make the game better and more life-like all the time. Horse and Pony sizes in hands with scaled images and foals that really look like foals are two of the newest. She's also working to make the colors and patterns increasingly life-like, a truly monumental undertaking.