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  • So Fish the freak windsucks....yay(!) She was wearing an anti crib/windsucking collar but it's magically disappeared, I've put her on pink powder, and the vet has been to check for ulcers (none). I've spoke to the old owner and Fish has been regularly checked for ulcers and they never found any, they said that it started as a stress release which has became habit. It's horrible, hate horses that windsuck. I've had a look at other ways to deter her doing it but they all cost upwards of £30 for a few weeks supply, crib stop is apparently rubbish for how much it costs. Is there a safe home made alternative? I'm thinking vasaline (petroleum jelly) mixed with say chilly powder would sharp stop her ruining her stable door/wall and teeth.
    I'm trying and having fun doing it.
  • Sump oil used to deter my old boy. That was the cheapest option, but makes the fences black and I don't particularly like having engine oil on a surface that i know my horse is going to be putting his mouth on.

    Best thing is to put a leather strap in place of the collar and plenty of toys to keep her occupied imo. Worst come to worst, hotwiring the top is always a sure thing.

    Chili powder + petroleum jelly would be worth a shot.
  • She's living out at the moment and still doing it. I don't think the Y/O would appreciate engine oil on her fence posts. I'm going to see what the hottest spice is that I can buy in my local shop. In her stable she has 2 salt licks, a molasses lick, a turnip on a rope, and a treat ball, still windsucks. Worst habit a horse can have imo. I'm not sure what you mean by hot wiring.
    I'm trying and having fun doing it.
  • She means putting an electric fence wire along the top of the fence line.

    In my experience, once a horse is a confirmed wind sucker they never break the habit. You can limit her opportunities by doing something like hotwiring the top of a fence, but they will often just find something else to crib on.

    Stable vices like windsucking should always be disclosed before a sale! It's an awful habit and I know several horses who learned the habit from pasture mates or stable mates. I hate it!
  • We have electric fencing in the fields but they're supported by wooden posts. I don't care if she does it to the trees, just don't want additional charges for fencing added to my bill. I'm going to give the hot chilli powder and petroleum jelly a try, just had some funny looks buying it.

    You're right cheers, and because they didn't I have emailed them stating that because they didn't I have a 4 legged vet bill on my hands and want a full refund (paraphrasing)
    I'm trying and having fun doing it.
  • The love of my life did it. It got better when we put him on omeprazol even though he didnt have ulcers. He still did it tho. Salt blocks or salt added to their food help and a good mineral supplement.

    I feel for you. Remember its also habitual, like smoking. So try not to be too hard on Fish!
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  • So I know that cribbing is when a horse fidgets by chewing at the building materials in their living quarters, and it can wear down their teeth the wrong way and they can get splinters (and now I gather they can get ulcers. How fun), but what is windsucking? It sounds similar. I assumed it was heavy breathing while exercising but I don't think so now.
  • No, they fix their front teeth on something (usually a fence) arch their neck and gulp air, usually with a weird grunting sound. It can be an expression of pain due to ulcers, not a cause of them. It is a vile habit, destructive to the fences/stables, destructive to them and often "contagious" to horses close by.
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  • There's a mare at the barn i board at that cribs now, didn't use to do it before, and my mare is next to her and I'm afraid she'll teach her this nasty habit, I've been going over there every day to work my mare and give her something to do so she doesn't pick it up, cribbing and colic suck :-/
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  • (By the way, Rose, there is a condition called "Roaring" that is characterized by a a very distinctive loud heavy breathing during exercise. It's caused by some sort of pharyngeal abnormality, often a partial paralysis of one of the pharyngeal "flaps". The horses can't effectively breathe, so they are prone to "exercise intolerance" (I love this descriptor) and may not be suitable for riding at higher levels or competitions. It can be surgically corrected in some instances with a procedure known as a "tie back" but such horses are then prone to aspiration pneumonia (because they cannot close the pharynx when they swallow)....seriously, given how ridiculously delicate and prone to injury horses are, they totally should not exist!)
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  • Oh yeah, that one. I didn't know it was an abnormality...
    Aren't they just so incredibly fragile? Maybe it's like the human draw to flowers and butterflies.
  • It works! I've put the chilli petroleum mix on all surfaces in her stable and she hasn't even tried to windsuck.
    I'm trying and having fun doing it.
  • The magically disappearing collar was taken off by a concerned horse owner who thought I put it on too tight and it was restricting my horses breathing... B.S. I politely informed them that they can have a say in what I do with my horse when they start paying for it. I've been informed that these people have no clue about horses and their horse is the first horse they have ever owned. I'm all for helping but when people start interfering with my horse and by extension her health I have a problem.
    I'm trying and having fun doing it.
  • I'm glad the chili worked!!

    Try to ignore the annoying fellow horse people - we all have them. One of the many reasons we moved ours to our own facility before it was 100% ready.
    Thanked by 1JamesBayMemorial
  • I have had 2 cribbers (windsuckers) my colt learned it from his dam. I also did the chili pepper. The colt got used to it though. An old time Rodeo cowboy friend of my dad's, said to switch out the chili peppers with jalapeño, tobasco sause, or anything else really hot. It worked, he got to where I didn't have to put his Miracle Collar, cribbing collar back on him. He lived to be 36 years old with no health problems after that.
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  • @Paints I will definitely be switching the spice the moment it looks like she is getting used to it. Hopefully i'll get her out of the habit
    I'm trying and having fun doing it.

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