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Can one start over on lines?
  • I want to start over on some of my lines. Like Dancers line make it the rabicano tobiano line that he was? How do I do this? I am up to 3g on his line? Any suggestions on how I do this?

    I know that my show bonus May take a big hit but any suggestions will be much appreciated.

    I know like with my machiato line I am only keeping horses intact that have the gene. Then they have to be superior to sire for my colts. I want to make Halloween Dancer line the way I dreamed of it.
  • Do you still have Halloween Dancer or has he aged out of the game already?
  • I snagged this girl earlier and she has just been chilling at my stable. She is red papered black rabicano tobi Dancer daughter if you need horses of the right type back in you line.
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    Treble Dance 2g
  • There are three ways to do this.

    One is to buy in fillies with the genes you want from others breeding those colors and patterns. This takes work to find foals and mares that have the genes you are looking for, especially if people are selling horses that aren't color tested or aren't named such that you can easily determine generation.

    Another is to start a line specifically to supply the fillies you need. You will want to scour the sales for tobiano and rabicano foundation mares and you will want to get or create a stallion that is homozygous for both. (Or use your Dancer straws, but remember your cull rate for straw use will be 50% or more).

    A third is to take a general look at all of your intact Breeders and pull from other lines to boost the numbers that have the genes you are looking for. If you have tobi or rab in another line, pull those fillies in. If you have a colt that carries one or the other gene and can be GMTd to carry both, or to carry two copies and you can afford the GMTs, add them to him.

    It's really difficult, in my opinion, to create a line that is both super strict in quality and also sticks really closely to a color and pattern plan. It's easier if you start a line planning to be strict because you can set yourself up to succeed by making sure all of your mares have some or all of the characteristics you want.

  • I have 24 straws of his should I look for the mares and redo his line from scratch? I think I can do it from his 2g stock. I will start looking for some mares with those genes.
  • @wildland if you are sure I would love to have her back. Her dam could pass out at rollover. I got a colt from her so she would be awesome to have.
  • If he aged out of the game a while ago, how much longer will his straws be good for before they expire?
  • I thought straws don't expire unless you set a date for that?
    Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
    Prices are almost always negotiable.
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  • I found an intact descendant of his on the public sales board.

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  • Straws never expire unless you set them to.
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  • He is cute but I have an A papered 3g grandson of his. Not sure if I would use him unless I could change his gender. Not sure if I can.
  • Really I did not know that! Thanks! I thought the 5 at the end meant that they expire in 5 years if you didn't set a date.

    And I think you could change gender for that horse if you wanted to since it's only 2. Not sure if it'd be worth it though, I didn't notice that stallion was only B papered when I posted him.
  • @best the colts father is a Dancer son who is Black Tobiano Rabicano. If you don't have a gen 2 colt that is those colors maybe you can get Color Good to put him up for breeding for you, sell him back or sell you straws? He's exactly what you're looking for.
  • ColorGood also owns this Blue Roan Tobiano Rabicano 2G mare from your stallion. She made a forum post recently about wanting to cut back/cull some of her horses so she might be willing to sell or sell straws/eggs if you ask.

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    2eBf Black Light Party DC
  • jezmynespice1 also owns this Black Tobiano Rabicano dancer son that she's never bred so you might be able to buy him back or get straws/breedings from him

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    halloween affair
  • Yep, she actually got lost in my barns for a while so I wasn't doing much with her anyway. Would love for her to go back to her herd and help you. :)
  • Ok I will be able to pick her up after auctions run tomorrow. Thanks so much.
  • I have a tobiano rabicano mare, that I would let you breed to for the next few seasons if you wanted. if you decide to go that path. She's produced a Blue papered before.
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    1G Tobiano Rabicano SBP

    I also still have my halloween daughter,. I love her dearly and she has a forever home (I love the tobiano rabicanos) but if you wanted her back/ "lease" her/ breed to her etc let me know. (LOL just realized that'd mean she'd come back to you a 3rd time)
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    2G Sassys Dance


    Here's a link to a forum auction for an ex producer. You could probably GMT rabicano on her too if you wanted.http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/25972/exceptional-producer-tobiano-forum-auction#Item_2
    If you don't want her I'll probably try and bid on her some more for me.
    Breeder of any and all crazy colored drafts and RH horses.
  • Have you bred to Sassy this season if not I would love to.
  • I have bred to Sassy. Sorry, but I got that cool blue roan filly I showed you. Would you like to breed to her next season?

    Also have this girl. She isn't related to your guy so don't know if it would help or not

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    2G Yule Surprise
    Breeder of any and all crazy colored drafts and RH horses.
  • Yes I would love to breed to sassy next season. can I breed to the other one tomorrow
  • She's already been bred to, but consider them both yours for as many seasons as you would like.
    Breeder of any and all crazy colored drafts and RH horses.
  • Ok awesome. Got some cleaning of my lines but I am getting them where I want them.

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