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  • How are people comp testing foals that were created by straws? I have a few boys that I would like to comp test to their sires but they were created by straws?
  • I think this is where the benchmark comes in.
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  • How are foals superior to sire if you cant compare them to their sire?
  • If I have a 2G boy from a sire I don't own, I will comparison test them against one of my foundations that have the same paper level as the colt's sire.
  • How does that say thwy are superior to sire? Why would anyone put iton the colts page? I am just curious? I cant even comp test the rest of dancers boys since he passed so how would i know if they were superior to him specifically without comp testing them against him?
  • Foundations are roughly similar in quality (especially if they are a RS, which is primarily what I use). So if the colt is superior to a foundation of the same quality as the colt's sire, it's safe to assume that colt is superior to it's sire as well. And as ObsidianKitsune said, you can use benchmarks as well if you want to be sure of their quality. Does this make any sense? I'm not the best at explaining things :D
  • It might make more sense once I get over being sick. Right now I am reading it and I dont know how one finds a benchmark? I have never really understood this part of the game?
  • @best friend, comparison testing doesn't need to be foal to sire only. You can compare stud to stud, too. I do this often because I have a lot of colts with sires I do not own. After a while you also build a range of each paper level, too, so it is important to keep track of the comparison tests. I do this by putting the results in an excel spreadsheet for easy access.

    For example, I have a stallion named 2G Watch Lite HKP.
    http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=419113
    I do/did not own his sire (who has now passed out of the game) and he was from a straw. Because Watch Lite's sire was a RS I compared him to another RS stallion, who happened to be RS Solar Wavelength.
    http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=330026

    Now I compared Watch Lite with another second generation stallion, SH The Beginning, and Watch Lite came out superior to The Beginning. That's why The Beginning got snipped, even though he had been comparison tested as superior to RS Solar Wavelength.
    http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=517899

    With that I was able to gauge that Watch Lite might be a "high" B so now I don't compare my second generation stallions to their sire. Watch Lite is my second generation benchmark. I only keep those that are about as good as him, since I have yet to find one superior to him.

    Watch Lite is also the stallion I use for all my third generation stallions - they need to test superior to him. I have yet to establish my third generation mares so I'm not too concerned with finding the "high" A. Though it is a goal.

    I hope those examples help make "benchmark" a bit more clear and why you can compare stallions to other stallions and not just their sire.
  • I got a stud from Cheers the one shr used as her benchmark i think for 2g? How do I see how he rates?
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    Iced Leaves AWn2


    This is the stud I got from her? So how does one tell if this is the horse they want to use as a bench mark?
  • @best friend, you have to decide what is benchmark. And yes, you purchased that second generation stallion from Cheers. You can look in the records and see "Cheers sold to best friend for 500 hb's on Dec. 18, 2016."

    If I remember right, Lambrusco Star 2 was her benchmark and he was a "high" B paper. If you want, you can use Iced Leaves AWn2 as a benchmark for all your second generation horses to compare as good as. Or you could simply comparison test your colts to their sires.

    However, with exceptional herd helpers, always consider equal breeding quality opportunity when comparing. It would be unfair to compare an A papered second generation stallion out of two exceptional horses to Ice Leaves AWn2 because he is out of PF/RS horses. I would expect a second generation colt out of exceptional herd helpers to be superior to my second generation stallions and equal to A papered third generation PF/RS studs.

    I hope that clears it up a bit more.
  • Ok I will so that. Yes that helps a lot. Thanks Ritsika.
  • @best friend - I got Lambrusco Star 2 from Cheers. He was her Gen 2 benchmark. He tests about as good as my Gen 2 A stallion that I use as a benchmark. So if your guy is AGA Lambrusco Star 2 - then you can assume he is pretty good and a high B. He will make a good benchmark until one of your horses test superior to him. Then they become your new benchmark.
  • I like leaves a lot even though i dont use him much.

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