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- Bourbon February 2017
- friesianpaints February 2017
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Non biased opinions!
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I would like some honest opinions on my horses from anyone willing to look. There are a few favorites I don't think I could part with but would like to know who my most valuable horses are and which ones should be altered or if really bad just auctioned off?
My ID is 15073
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Oh my god, you have a lot of horses to sort through. I think it might take a bit too much time for me to have a thorough look on my phone but is there an area that you want a closer look at? Foals, foundies, 2g, stallions, mares? I don't mind having a good nose in a specific area if that helps?#4519
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Hmm maybe start with foals? Maybe I can work backwards from there by who is producing the different level of quality?
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At a quick glance, I would say you are doing well. You have a lot of your second generation stallions papered and, of the breeding age studs, there are only a few with Average Foal PT (AFPT) scores below their own PT score.
For example this stud:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=508161
His PT score is 10.3 and his average is 9.8
Again, not bad considering he has only ten foals on the ground.
For third generation stallions I have a strict A paper level cut off -- if you don't paper A you don't get to stay intact in my barn. G3 Trust Carapace is a prime example of what I think is a good stud. He papered better than his sire, has a better PT score than sire and dam, has an AFPT scoring above his PT score with the bonus of being consistent. You have a lot of beautiful studs that papered B and that is totally fine, but if you are looking to limit the number of intact colts I would start by altering a few B papered 3G that just aren't as special to you.
By the fourth generation, I'm definitely expecting an A paper level and a PT score above 10.5 because these should easily be reached by then. I'm just starting my fifth generation colts and I haven't managed a *Star paper but I'm crossing my fingers for this season.
I hope that helps. I will look at your fillies next if you would like. :)
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Thanks....so that leads to my next question....at what point will they no longer get any benefit from being altered, does it have to be done when they are young/ before leveled off/ or can it be done even on older horses to get that better training and showing ability?
I had a couple older ones I contemplated altering but due to age didn't know if there was any benefit to it now?
If you have time and want to keep going through them I would appreciate it but no worries if you can't!
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@friesianpaints, I don't have a definite answer for you. I assume that if a horse has "leveled off" next to the training category, it would not be beneficial to alter them for the bonus because they have essentially reached their max pontential. That being said, I typically do not alter them after the age of 10 unless they have LE genes. If they have LE genes I alter them no matter the age so that I don't accidentally let it out of my barn during public breeding.
Lately I have been able to keep up with foal sorting and I alter foals immediately out of the pasture. That way they get the most out of the altering bonus. Personally, I would leave the older horses intact.
I don't have as much time after dinner as I thought so I won't be looking at your fillies tonight. But I'm actually terrible at culling fillies. I just want to horde all of them so if they make it through MA/SAT I'm satisfied. Then, during their breeding years, I try to abide by a three strikes policy. If a mare has three foals altered by free testing I cull her from the breeding herd and add her to the show herd. I hope that helps you out. :D -
Thanks that is a lot of help!
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What is your opinion on this stallion?
G2u ESB One Good Day
I know that uneven pedigrees tend to be frowned upon but he is A papered and most of his foals have similar or higher pt scores than him so he seems to produce well. Is it OK to keep his foals intact when they pass testing since there has been improvement?
I got this filly by him out of an equally uneven bred mare
G3u MHF Ice Ice Baby NFS -
@friesianpaints, I must admit that I'm not knowledgeable about uneven pedigrees. That being said, I have only noticed that selling uneven foals/horses is frowned upon. I think this has to do with their ability to pass free testing intact and their breeding ability.
You can do whatever you would like! Don't forget this is fun stuff. Having an uneven stallion is a great way to get show ponies because the rate of intact foals might be decreased due to the uneven breeding quality of the sire to the damage. But if a foal does make it through intact, you can definitely keep it that way. I don't know how to judge improvement in overall quality of uneven horses though. Just because a horse passes free testing doesnt necessarily mean improvement of quality. It means the foal could be about as good as their sire/dam -- as far as i understand it.
I doubt uneven horses would have an appeal to most members if you were looking to sell unless they are sold as show horses. Which means they wouldn't get much more than auction value.
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Thanks, it does help, I think I'll keep playing with him since his foals have such high pt scores, even if they end up show ponies could help my show bonus