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- Ammit January 2017
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PT scores...whats the standard
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I am really trying to cull? My mares most havent had 3 foals. So how do i cull level by level based off of their own PT?
This is what I had in mind...
Foundation 9.9
2G 10.3
3G 10.7
4G 11.2
5G 11.7
6G and up 12.3 or higher
Is this realistic or do i need to redo it?
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I would still use foal pt, even if you don't have three foals, because foal pt shows more of how the mare is as a breeder than the pt score.
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The big question, look at your mares and see if you will end up with the numbers of mares you want after going such a cull.
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Should i base it off of even foal?
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I would base everything off of even foals. Uneven foals can cause a skew in your PT score.
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9.9
2G 10.3
3G 10.7
4G 11.1
5G 11.6
6G and up 12 or higher
.4 gain per generation is a strict but very obtainable goal. I fixed your numbers to show that. Jumping .6 like you had at the end there is probably unrealistic.
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Thanks Ammit.
I want to start playing better. Right now I feel like I am a liitle out of whack.
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What do i do now? Just going through my barns i have 12 2g mares that PT at 10 or below. I thought about auctioning these mares.
I am not going to use these mares for breeding but i dont want to make anyone mad. -
Are you looking at their PT of their FOALS PT. You need to look at foal PT.
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No this is based off their own Pt because not all these mares have hadfoals.
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You will have to breed them first. Those numbers are only good for foal PTs.
You can look at their dams though and see if their dams where good quality mares or not. You really can not cull based on the PT of a mare directly but if her dam was really bad you can bet the mare isn't great either.
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Ok so just so I understand on my 2g mares for the ones that hasnt had a foal look at her dams pt score correct?
Should I just try to cull my studs for now until my mares have a chance at foaling 3 foals?
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I'd wait until they've had at least three foals and then average the foals PT scores if I were you. The dam's PT doesn't mean much in relation to what you're trying to figure out - a mare with a good breeding ability will produce foals with a relatively higher PT, so you can look at a mare and sort of assess the quality of her dam. If you're tying to cull 2g mares, you'll need to look at their foals (3rd gen) to assess the 2g mares' quality.
Also remember that pasture bonus affects foal quality quite a bit - if my mare hasn't been in a pasture prior to being bred, I won't expect the same proportion of high quality offspring that I would otherwise. -
No you would never look at her dams PT score. You need to look at her dams FOALS pt score. You always judge a horse on the PT scores of it's foals. No mater what.
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Aw ok. I misunderstood. Thanks Ammit for clearing that up.