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A Rank Special is always at least a perfect foundation, so it's not your stallion. It's not unusual to get some inferior, some equal quality and a few superior foals in every crop--regardless of the quality of the parents. If you can quantify that you are getting more inferior foals or an inferior Average Foal Performance Test score from this stallion's batch of foals, it's your mares you should look at first.

It's a bit of an old saw by now, but at some point in the past a player did an experiment breeding a perfect foundation stallion to all perfect foundation mares. Information on how they did passing testing I don't believe is available (and would be grossly out of date anyway) but the foal PT scores ranged from something like 8.9-10.4. Given that all parents had PTs of 9.9, that should give you an idea of the range produced within such breedings. We can extrapolate that the hidden breeding score would have a similar range, above and below that of the parents.

What is his link?

In reference to the experiment breeding perfect foundations mentioned above, all perfect foundations have 100% breeding ability, which is the best non-exceptional creates can have. So there is nothing wrong with his quality.

However, even breeding foundations in pasture with mares that have spent 30+ days there, it's possible to get C papered sons.

In HaJ1, I have an exceptionally perfect foundation stallion (B papered) in pasture with foundation mares that are all exceptional producers who were in pasture 30 days before I bred them. He produced 17 colts. Four of them are A papered stallions that comparison tested about as good as each other. Of the 13 geldings from the crop, 3 papered A but were snipped because they are inconsistent. The other 10 all papered B and were snipped because they didn't paper higher than their sire. He also gave me 4 fillies that were spayed and 11 fillies that are still intact, although I haven't checked all of them yet for consistency. How they will do breeding, is, of course, unknowable until they have foals of their own, but all of the intact ones did pass SMA.

I don't remember exactly, but of all the pastures of regular foundations that I bred at the same time, I can recall there being a fair sized handful of C papered colts.

Cheers, if you are getting intact C papered colts for your 4th generation, I would think the quality of your 3rd generation boys is pretty low, I'm sorry to say :(

Ah, ok, I thought you were getting C papered intacts :P

On WHG Ammit had 'nicks' (aka niches); stallions and mares that, for whatever reason more often than not had better foals. We never really had time to play with it, and figure it out before the game shut down, but it was cool to know! That kind of thing messes up all the calculations! :P

Right now all of my foundation's mares are papering red. Hoping for a blue in the 2 and 3 generation groups.

Aw ok.

Hey Maribo! Maybe you can help me with a quandary I'm having in my gen 3 mare herd. I'm trying to transition to keeping only Blue mares and an AFPT of 11.0 or more. I have some Blue mares with AFPTs below this and some Red mares with AFPTs above this. Numbers aren't a problem--I have a back log of mares sitting in barns waiting for their chance. Should I just snip both sets of mares that aren't living up to my expectations?