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best friend · Oct 27, 2016 11:33 AM

What is this my Candy Corn mare has this. Is that the KP gene?

Mystic rose · Oct 27, 2016 11:52 AM

Kit is like tobiano, roan or white spotting :) all candy corn mares have it :)

Salvistar · Oct 27, 2016 12:04 PM

No, it is not KP. Kitr stands for roan. KitrKitr means your horse has two roan alleles for the kit gene. All of their babies will be roan.

best friend · Oct 27, 2016 12:22 PM

Ok so what is the KP gene on?

Denalidom · Oct 27, 2016 12:26 PM

For a KP horse to have the cloudy patches they need two copies of KP and two kit genes. These can be roan (Kitr), tobiano (Kitto), sabino (Kitsb1 and Kitsb2), or white (Kitw1, Kitw2, etc). In real life, the mutations that cause those specific patterns (which are all some kind of addition of white) are located on the same gene (a specific location on a horse's chromosome). Your mare would be a great candidate for a KP line because she will always pass down a kit gene!

best friend · Oct 27, 2016 12:41 PM

Are there any KP foundies out there?

kassierae · Oct 27, 2016 1:02 PM

You have to GMT the KP onto them. I have a foundie mare and stallion that I GMTd.

Denalidom · Oct 27, 2016 1:04 PM

Yes, check out the leaderboards for a list of several. Or try a horse search with KP entered for the tattoo and the box for lined horses unchecked.

SandycreekFarm · Oct 27, 2016 1:20 PM

I don't think anyone has mentioned yet that KP does not show up on the gene test. You have to find a way of keeping track of it on your own, especially since heterozygous KP has no effect on the horse's appearance, even if it does have two Kit mutations.

Ritsika · Oct 27, 2016 6:51 PM

@Best friend, you can also think of the Kit Promoter (KP) as hidden alleles. For example, I have a foundation stallion that I genetically modified to have KP and you can see that in his somatic tattoo list; however, all that is noted is: ? >> ? and ? >> ? which I know to be KP genes because I chose them. link to stallion here Previously, you could actually tell which gene was added through GMT in the somatic tattoo list link to another stallion here. You can see that he was blank for the allele at first, as all foundations are, but I modified him to be homozygous for KP.

@SandyCreek Farm, you bring up a good point. If you have a homozygous Kit Promoter horse without any Kit genes you will also see no visible effect on the horse's appearance.

ConfluenceFarms · Oct 27, 2016 6:52 PM

It makes sense. Can't promote Kit if there is no Kit to promote! That's how I had to teach myself to remember it. That and a picture in my head of a white cloud getting a better job!

Ritsika · Oct 27, 2016 6:53 PM

@Confluence Farms, exactly! :)

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