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- best friend September 2016
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Leveling off?
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Should I still show them even though they can't be trained any higher or should they just be bloodied? Also how does a free member account know if their horses will train for quite some time or level off early in their lives?
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They will still gain points, just more slowly. The PT score can give you a RELATIVE age when they will level off, but it's not exact.
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Can a free member account test for that?
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So I have a mare that her PT score is 9.6
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Here is a link to a good discussion about levelling off: http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/comment/15178#Comment_15178
Free members can test for it, I think. PT= performance test. Your mare should gain well until she reaches 9 or 10 (ish) years old, then she will still gain, just not as quickly. I don't even fuss with my show horses. I put them in a barn and let them show til they age out of the game (aka die!) -
Hmmmm...I may be wrong about whether or not free members can PT test (it's been a while since I had a free account!)
Just as a FYI - it is against game rules to sell a horse to any other player for the purpose of testing, and then buy it back. -
Thank you Confluence. Yeah I wasn't thinking of selling my mares just trying to figure out how to guess their PT score without going basic quite yet. I enjoy the game but want to do my best at it as well.
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One way to estimate their PT is if it appears that their show scores increase by about 3 points each week. Inconsistency may affect that, but if you are able to consistency test your horses, you will find that it is easier to estimate score increases.
If you right down the scores when the horse is just born or just created and keep a record for several weeks, you can do this fairly well.
Example:
A foundation horse starts out in level 1R after its first training.
The first show it scores 4; the second show it scores 6.
It is trained again the next week and levels up to 1N.
The first show it scores 7; the second show it scores 8.
It is trained again the next week and levels up to 2L.
The first show it scores 12; the second show it scores 10.
Based on this you can estimate that it's base score the first week was 5; the second week the base score was 8; the third week, the base score was 11. The horse is gaining 3 points per week and has a consistency of +/- 1. The horse probably has a PT score of 9.6 to 9.9.
The shift from Level 1 to Level 2 occurs when the base score is 10 or 11, depending on the horse, and 10 is usually more likely than 11 as the shifting point.
This example is based on my experience showing and keeping paper levels back in 2011 when knowing when a horse was likely to come in at the top half of its classes was very important, if not essential, to keep your stable afloat financially. When Ammit gave us the Showing Bonus system for showing income and released us from being tied to showing profit, which is based on the difference between the cash payout from placing in a show minus the cost to enter the horse. Only horses that placed in the top half of the class made a profit.
Any, after that digression, what I started out to explain is that it's been probably 4 years, at least, since I have done this, because I fairly soon reached the point when I had too many horses to have enough time to keep manual records on all of them, and I switched, with great relief, to what is now the Premium Upgrade so that I could have the auto-showing feature. I may have some of the exact specifics of the switch from one Grade to the next in Level 1 a bit off, since all four Grades cover only 10 points. But the principle stands.De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592 -
PS To answer your question about what to do when a horse levels off--if it has even a fair number of points and you have room in your barns--keep it. If it's a foundation horse with even a slightly lower PT score than 9.5, it will continue to show and continue to add show points (those awarded for where a horse placed in its show) until it passes out of the game from old age, at 18 or older. If the horse leveled of at age 9, that means another 7 game years at the least that it will be adding increasingly to your showing bonus.
Even if it does level up one more time and starts coming in near the bottom of the class, it will still be worth keeping for the points it has already gathered.
And if it levels off placing in the bottom half of the class, it will slowly but surely continue adding minute fractions of a point to its show score and slowly but surely work its way up the bottom half of the class, gaining a few more points every month or so and placing closer and closer to the middle of the class.De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592 -
Ok that does help. I have been keeping a record on each horse but was having a hard time figuring it out. This helps a lot. Thank you all.